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[–] 7777AKA@lemm.ee 110 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] El_Rocha@lm.put.tf 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The thing it's missing the most is better multi device support and an updated desktop client.

For me, I think Matrix is more complete (specially since it backs-up your chats and media encrypted). The only thing it's lacking (at least Element specific) is encrypted chat search support on mobile.

[–] ReadyUser30@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What matrix is missing is anyone that I know. Ultimately that is way more important than features in a messaging client.

[–] El_Rocha@lm.put.tf 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In my personal experience, everyone who has an account with Signal also has with Matrix. The main issue for me is who has an account at all.

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I’ve used signal for ages but didn’t know what Matrix was until Lemmy tbh

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol -1 points 1 year ago

In turn you can bet that who has one on Matrix will have one on Session, SimpleX and at least other 10 apps you've never heard about

[–] gvasco@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

It has bridges for most messaging services so you could use a matrix frontend for most of your messaging needs without having people on matrix so long as the server admin has set up those extensions

[–] 7777AKA@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Signal client looks optimized on MacOS and Linux i don’t use Windows so not sure what’s going on there

[–] MoonshineBrew@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I use it on windows. The client is totally fine for the most part.

Though for some reason it regularly screws up the device-connection, forcing me to reconnect the device, loosing access to every old message. Seems to be a rare bug though, as my family also uses the windows client and theirs never has this problem (out of 8 device 1 has this problem)

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

+1 for linux cluent, absolutely no complaints

[–] 7777AKA@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

I register my Signal on off-shore phone number and i use it over MullvadVPN with multi-hop so i think is pretty private this way

[–] El_Rocha@lm.put.tf 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use it for linux. Recently there was a bug where if you had a chat opened, it would pin one core to 100% usage. It also lacks feature parity with the mobile client (ex: gif search and send).

[–] 7777AKA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Well Signal Desktop client and Server is running on Java 🥲🥲🥲

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it sucks that if I were using Signal only on my phone and eventually decide to start using it on desktop, it doesn't sync any conversation history, resulting in the desktop client showing nothing from before you set it up. It should have older devices send history to new ones. If you're permanently switching devices, are you losing that history for good?

[–] hydration9806@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, you can backup the chats and import them when installing Signal on the new device

[–] gvasco@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Hadn't thought of that!

[–] Sackbut@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's no way that we can have a mainstream alternative to imessage if we keep declaring a new app or protocol the new best one every two years.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

iMessage can't be "the mainstream" app by locking out most of the world tho. Plus it is definitely the ugliest thing Apple has ever made in its lifetime that I know of.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 1 year ago

All Google needs to do is make a public RCS API. Then we will have all the important features iMessage has on Android via regular texting. I have no fucking clue why they are making RCS exclusive to their messaging app.

[–] El_Rocha@lm.put.tf 1 points 1 year ago

I think have settled into what they know.

I think that iMessage is only prevelant in North America. Here in Europe (Portugal, at least), everyone uses Whatsapp.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

Hopefully the new MLS for app interoperability will ease the adoption of any newer app

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Still waiting for the ability to log in one two phones, and ideally also uncompressed photo/file sending

But yea Signal is great

[–] 4nix@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

SimpleX or Matrix are way better

[–] 7777AKA@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Session is good too but is only used by IT people… Signal is used by lawyers and many more

[–] jack@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

SimpleX >>>> Matrix

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's really a chat app. Isn't it just a text replacement? Or does it just use that number as your ID to use it? I have it, but only ever used it with one guy.

[–] OutOfMemory@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It has lots of nice features over SMS: read/typing notifications, image/video support, proper groups, message expiration. I think that makes it a chat app

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I was implying mms as well. Didn't know about the other additions. I only knew one person with it, and we haven't spoken in years.

[–] superfes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I have all those features with Google Messages (as long as I'm not talking to an iPhone user).

Signal's UI has improved a lot though. Still I only know one person that uses it.