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Went to a restaurant in LA today and when I got the check I noticed that it was a bit higher than it should be. Then I noticed this 18% service charge. So... We, as customers, need to help pay for their servers instead of the owners paying their servers a living wage. And on top of that they have suggested tip. I called bs on this. I will bet you that the servers do not see a dime of this 18% service charge. [deleted a word so it wasn't a grammatical horror to read]

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[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it even legal to force you to pay more than the menu reads? I know tipping 18% is a social norm now in the states, but you can technically say no to that. Can you say no to this service tax?

[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The menu clearly states the service fee.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I love how they try to do it over the "per CA State law" clause so it seems like they're forced to charge that.

Is this a law for all restaurants?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

“Per CA state law, water is only served upon request”

Because we all know that the biggest contributor to the water crisis: glasses of water sitting untouched at restaurant tables.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

No need to "tip" then, already included.

[–] unceme@lemmy.one -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Tipping isn't really a social norm as much as it is a social imperative-- the food is considerably cheaper than it should be because you're expected to make up the cost difference in tips.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A companies shitty business model is not the responsibility of the customer.

[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

It is a social norm. Prices at restaurants are not cheap even without including tips, the amount tipped is decided by social norms, and if i get a shitty service i sure as hell dont tip.