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[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How possible do you think it is that they both independently reached the same level of political disgust with the status quo for different reasons?

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It’s possible. But actively pushing the narrative that there is no point in voting on on Lemmy only helped Trump win.

If people pushed the „no point in voting“ narrative in right wing forums it would be be better.

As I said people encouraging left leaning (in the American sense) potential voters to not vote is what right wing saboteurs would do.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Existing in those spaces heavily, I disagree that the push was towards not voting, the heavy criticism I saw was towards that only see political action as voting. Further, acknowledging the reality that interests of the ruling class, or palestinians, is not on a ballet.

It’s possible. But actively pushing the narrative that there is no point in voting on on Lemmy only helped Trump win.

This just seems so far from impactful. The narrow slice of people that exist on lemmy, were in the set of states that actually decide elections, and also are politically influenced by it enough to change their vote, is such a tiny number of people. Do you really find it to be a worthwhile point to attack rather than the failures of democrats to recognize and push back against the decades long project of fascism that has been built by the republicans?

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I strongly agree that it was ultra low impact. But in the results where the same. It has the exact same impact as would a right winger saboteur saying the same. The same end goal would be helped. And this case the right wing benefits.

I think a better approach would be for those left wing (in the non American sense) spaces to push voter apathy in right wing spaces.

Then on top encouraging action and organization of the left.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't think the approach is to sway voters, and wasting time trying to salt right wing forums into helplessness seems like a poor use of time. The reason folks posted it here is that they were recreationally and airing their grievances, as well as pushing the idea that political action and thought needs to exist outside elections to those that are closer to them, but are otherwise politically disengaged in non-election years.