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[–] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think you can manufacture consent for a war against people so culturally similar to you they're basically indistinguishable.

That's what everyone thought about a potential Russian invasion of Ukraine a long time ago. Turns out a dictator just does things.

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well,like the Ukrainians,the Canadians have a shitload of nazis too,many of them Ukrainian ironically enough

Problem is,the US can't draw on its historical memory of killing nazis like the remnants of the greatest fascist killing machine,the Soviet Union,can

[–] hogslayer@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Problem is,the US can't draw on its historical memory of killing nazis like the remnants of the greatest fascist killing machine,the Soviet Union,can

The average American thinks that the USA defeated the Nazis

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah,but a lot of them regret that

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the long history of animosity between Russia and Ukraine makes things a little different there.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

long history of animosity? seriously?

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

There was a long struggle between Great Russian and the "Little Russian" that stems from the post-Napoleonic rise of nationalism. Thats why Lenin made the Ukrainian SSR so big in the first place, he wanted to reverse the cultural politics by the Tsar. Modern Ukrainian nationalism which radiated outwards from former Austrian-controlled Galicia is different kind of beast though.

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I don't think you can deny post the collapse of the USSR, at lot of Ukrainians have embraced anti-Russian attitudes. Sure a lot of that is manufactured by the west, but it's still there. And yes there is some anti-Ukrainian sentiment amongst Russians as well, even if you can argue some of that is justified by Ukrainian Nazi collaboration.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

sure, but i wouldnt call that a long history

Fair.

Regardless I don't think that dynamic exists between Canada and the US.