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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 44 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

A Marxist is stuck in a room with a liberal, a fascist, and an anarchist. The Marxist has one gun and two bullets. What does the Marxist do? Shoot the liberal and the anarchist.

(Based off actual historical events.)

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The Soviet Union did more to stop the fascists than anyone else, and 27 million people in the Soviet Union were killed in the fight.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that's after they made an alliance with Nazi Germany. An alliance Germany broke, not the USSR.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)

The USSR first sought an alliance with Britain and France which was rejected, so they signed a non-aggression pact with Germany. Britain and France also signed a non-aggression pact with Germany, betraying one of their allies (Czechoslovakia) in exchange.

Should we take the fact that the US and USSR fought on the same side in WWII to say that they were always close friends and ideologically aligned, completely ignoring everything else? Because if anything that would be more reasonable to assert, because it never escalated to a hot war between the two.

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 2 points 8 minutes ago

It wasn't just a pact of non-aggression. They divided Poland between themselves! France and Britain abandoned Czechoslovakia to avoid a war, USSR made an alliance with Nazi Germany to begin one.

And USSR and the US were on the same side because they were attacked by allied countries (Germany and Japan), they didn't chose one another. Stop your historical revisionism.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

The Marxist was the only one who gave the anarchist guns, tanks, and planes. But no, they're surely a bigger threat than the liberal and fascist.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

If anyone disagrees:

Kronstadt

Spanish Civil War

Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact

The War in Ukraine

Etc.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The Spanish Civil War is actually slightly inaccurate. The Communist Party were sided with the Liberal Republicans instead of the revolutionaries - like the anarchists, and other socialists - and later prosecuted those revolutionaries and accused them of being fascists while a lot of them were still in the frontlines fighting actual fascists. The Communist Party were just serving the interests of the USSR, which at that point wanted a liberal government in Spain (due to their relation to France, if I recall correctly) and not a workers' revolution.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 2 hours ago
  • 1932 Germany
  • Two months ago, thanks guys, Palestine and immigration policy are saved now
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The War in Ukraine

I'm confused.

Did you forget how all the MLs were rooting for Putin and performing apologetics about how Russia had "national trauma from its interactions with the west"? (actual quote, btw.) They pointed out how there were some factions in the military that were antisemitic and ignored the openly fascist policies of the Kremlin.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 hours ago

Spanish Civil War

What can drag Google to learn more about tankies fucking up Catalonia?

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Surely giving the gun to the fascist is a better decision. They'll just shoot themselves in the foot... Right?

[–] Metaphysika@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

They eventually do. Fascism encourages corruption and incompetence, social division and the fragmentation of non-governmental movements, local dissidents and autonomies. Mussolini was so incompetent that not only was Italy eventually invaded by the Allies and lost its sovereignty to the German Reich, but Benito himself was imprisoned, despite his escape he didn't make it to Switzerland and was hanged by Communist partisans. Hitler, on the other hand, also encouraged corruption and division within his own structures to prevent people from allying against him or creating opposition. Hitler himself was an incompetent idiot who interfered in the work of his generals. To the end, Adolf believed he could win the war, and when he realised the shit he had created, he shot himself. Fascists aren't smart or competent enough, they often rely heavily on people who can do things and who are bribed by the fascists to work with them. Hitler often used Göring's upper class position and connections with prominent aristocrats to get his ideas through, as Hitler himself was just a peasant born in a village with little education and was even homeless for a time. Hitler relied heavily on people more competent than him in important positions to get what he wanted, because he could do shit on his own.