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[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

because people should vote on excitement and engagement, not truth

What part of the genocide wasn't true at the time of the elections?

reactionary populisms fueled by false promises

Like codifying Roe V Wade? Like closing Guantanamo?

If they have a shred of civil responsibility

Civil responsibility is voting for the party that pretends to care about Gazans while carrying out a genocide and funding Israel.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Like not spamming the same comment multiple times and like realizing that the only but quite essential power you do have is choosing between the least worse candidate because the much worse candidate will go the complete autocrat route. I can't believe how brainwashed some people continue to be to try to argue they have not just doomed Gaza, helped expand Guantanamo Bay, or have endangered people's right while trying to use examples of how it could have been better as an "argument".

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Literally ALL the things you've mentioned could have been fixed by democrats, and 2/3 were actually electoral promises... I dont know how you expect people to keep voting for the lesser evil if the lesser evil is a deceptive and genocidal party

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Because the alternative is much worse and arguments like yours are so far more deceptive that they are the Hail Mary of autocratic troll factories.

Just because you don't get the choices you want or should have does not mean you should throw it away, and if what Trump isn't proving that already, then you are either a dumbass or arguing in bad faith. People like you are far more responsible for Trump and as a consequence his actions than the voters you claim to hate.

It is perfectly possible to try to work to change a system from the outside that cannot be changed from the inside while trying to use whatever influence you have on the inside to prevent the worst aspects of it. Instead you choose play acting and then shaking off responsibility.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 3 hours ago

Well you clearly see it doesn't work. Saying "there's someone worse* CLEARLY doesn't mobilise people to vote repeatedly against fascism. Almost as if, hear me out, fascism has never historically been beaten through electoralism. What we need is to organize in leftist communities and organisations, create dual power structures, protest hard and support labor rights, and struggle against fascism through direct action instead of voting once every four years.

Keep blaming the people who warned you that the democrat strategy of lesser-evilism wouldn't work.