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Proton Mail, known for its privacy-first email services, faced backlash after CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party and its antitrust stance.

The company initially posted and deleted a statement supporting Yen’s comments, later claiming an “internal miscommunication” and reiterating its political neutrality.

Critics question Proton’s impartiality, particularly as it cooperates with Swiss authorities on legal data requests.

Privacy advocates warn that political alignments could undermine trust, especially for Proton’s users—journalists and activists wary of government surveillance under administrations like Trump’s.

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[–] waywardninja@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Curious how so many people decided to ditch them and switch (vocally on Lemmy at least) and now they back pedal/clarify/whatever. Turns out we have power and using it works. Sorry not sorry. Edited: pedal instead of petal.

[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 7 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Im so sorry. I tried not to, but the pull was to strong. Ignore me please...

But...

The saying is "back pedal", not "back petal". "Back pedal" as in trying to pedal backwards on a bike. Not "back petal" as in trying to pick flowers at the back of a bush, maybe? Trying to not lie down on a bed of roses? Unsure.

[–] Leg@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oof. Kinda awkward, but...

*too

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago
 I'm so sorry but the Harvard Guid
 to Margin Spacing Standard is very off. 
 Sorry.
[–] waywardninja@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

I fixed that twice!
Fist Curse you autocorrect! Fist

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I really don't think there's anything wrong with a respectful and well-intentioned correction.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am currently entrenched in Google. Slowly digging my way out so I could transfer to proton. I was probably within about a month maybe two or pulling the trigger. Zero chance that happens now. I don't like Google But I know what they're going to do. If I'm going to put the effort into move that critical data it's got to be with some place I can trust or I'm going to have to host it myself.

[–] Kelsier@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

yap I'm exactly on the same boat. I am testing the waters with proton to leave google... and then I see this... Can't find an alternative

[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Email:

Mailbox https://mailbox.org/en/

Posteo https://posteo.de/en

Startmail https://www.startmail.com/

Runbox https://runbox.com/

Cloud File Storage:

Filen https://filen.io/

Tresorit https://tresorit.com/

VPN:

Air VPN https://airvpn.org/

(sorry, didn't have time to link more VPNs. I'm at work.)

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm researching the suggestions that people have made here: tuta, bitwarden, and mullvad.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Main downside of Mullvad is no port forwarding anymore

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

AirVPN is still great if you need port forwarding (e.g. for P2P services). Unfortunately they limit it to 5 ports for new accounts - used to be 20.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

BW is great Chefs Kiss $40 a year for 6 people, it's a good product made by people who seem to care.

I'm using PIA, it's not great, but i'm not doing great things nor and I doing them quickly. They'll give you openssl certs and you can do programmatic crap AND have a dedicated port.

Tuta is pricey for what you get. 8/month/user for email/cal with reasonable storage, No office apps, i need to replace a LOT of google services. Still have a lot tied up in their auth/store. And honestly encrypted email (AAS) is mostly worthless. It's not encrypted between them and office 365 or google and everyone is already reading those in transit. And Google/MS are already mining/selling the content. If you're not talking tuta<->tuta you might as well be broadcasting it.

The $3 for the shared box seems like a slap in the face. You're literally already paying them for service/storage.

You can host thousands of email users on a couple of modest boxes for a couple hundred a month.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally going with option 2 on an old PC, learning a lot about docker lol

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally going with option 2 on an old PC, learning a lot about docker lol

Have to be careful in planning, a lot of ISP's block common ports needed to host dns/web/email

Getting DKIM and SPIF running locally has a bit of a learning curve.

The real pain is SMTP. Even if you set up everything perfectly, a lot of mail providers won't accept SMTP traffic from a home IP.

I think my longterm plan is to just keep a free gmail and try like hell to never use it.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Was looking into https://mailcow.email/

Haven't gone past the cursory look tho

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago

At first glance, they check all the boxes for me.