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[–] Edie@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (5 children)

So, if I want to get rid of my beard permanently, I would have to get laser right? I would ask if any here have had experience with Danish places, but we don't have many Danes nor are they online that much, I think? So any more general knowledge on it is appreciated!

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

If your facial hair isn't grey or very light blonde and you aren't very dark skinned, laser is the quickest first line treatment. If done right, you can permanently get rid of a 5 o' clock shadow in 10 - 15 sessions (this will take about a year and a half, as you should take a break during the summer months and you should space the later sessions out a bit to catch as many hairs in the growth cycle as possible). I still shave after 10 sessions of laser, but it's just to get my face smooth. I can go out unshaved for two days and without makeup, it takes a pretty big weight off my shoulders. If laser doesn't lead to noticeable blank patches within the first few sessions or if the hair turns lighter, tell your laser technician immediately, they will have to make adjustments to the settings. DO NOT FALL FOR IPL SCAMS. IPL isn't laser, it is almost never a permanent solution for facial hair (it can work on the shins, because hair roots there are closer to the surface). You might need a few touch-up sessions down the line because some hair can regrow, but it'll mostly work.

Needle epilation / electrolysis works if laser is not an option or as a follow-up to laser hair removal. Electrolysis is extremely time-consuming, we're talking several hundred sessions or more. Electrolysis goes after every single hair individually. The advantage is that you can remove all facial hair this way. If your aim is total removal and never having to shave again, electrolysis as a follow-up is a necessity, but it'll take a lot of time even if laser had good results.

Laser works well if you have light skin and dark hair.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Not Danish specific but the number one users of laser facial hair removal is cis women, it's not just us~

[–] PopPrincess@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a Dane😊 Are you currently in the process of getting treatment at CKI? Through them you can get a referral for laser hair removal. I only got 6 sessions, but I've heard of other people getting unlimited or at least more than 6 sessions, although I'm not sure if that was only the case in the past.

Outside of those 6 sessions I just researched local places offering laser hair removal and went there. I found one place doing kind of bootleg electrolysis, so I got one electrolysis session too, but generally electolysis seems quite hard to come by depending on where in Denmark you live.

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Are you currently in the process of getting treatment at CKI?

Nope. Didn't say the right things for the referral letter.

but generally electolysis seems quite hard to come by depending on where in Denmark you live.

Yea. I live on Sjælland, so I'm probably going to have to look at what is available in Copenhagen.

[–] PopPrincess@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope. Didn't say the right things for the referral letter.

Ah yeah, it's truly an awful process. I hate Denmark so much honestly. Have you tried getting a referral to one of the other clinics? They are slightly less strict from my understanding. Also if you need some pointers to help being approved I'd be glad to help though you might already know of them.

Yea. I live on Sjælland, so I'm probably going to have to look at what is available in Copenhagen.

Yeah Copenhagen is a good option, they should have lots of options for hair removal.

Also, you might already know, but if you want voice training sessions they are free through your municipality (at least in most IIRC) and you don't need a referral through CKI for that.

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

oh, that was for Odense. So.. yea, I probably don't know. Do tell me.

I haven't checked with mine, but yes I do know that many have voice training for free.

[–] PopPrincess@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

I think the best one is the one in Aalborg.

Generally, you just want to show and tell them what they want to see and hear. You basically have to portray a binary (possibly heterosexual) trans person even if you aren't. For my first appointment I showed up in feminine clothes, nail polish, etc. and I had practiced what to say when asked different things. E.g. when they asked about my mental health I lied about basically everything except for my awful dysphoria. You really want to bring up dysphoria and how it affects you, but not other mental health issues. I also implicitly stated that I would likely kill myself if I had to continue living as a man, but I didn't explicitly say that I was suicidal as that could be used against me. If you have any mental health diagnoses that could negatively affect the process as they like to deny care based on frivolous reasons.

In regards to my family situation I lied and told them I had a good relationship with my family (like it's decent, but they weren't great parents, kind of emotionally neglectful, but I did not mention this). I also came out to my family between first and second appointment which seemed to be seen as positive. Other than that I think being on DIY HRT is also a benefit as it shows you are serious about transitioning (and my personal theory is that they want to control your transition so they want you off DIY).

Idk you might already know all of this, but this was how I went about it and I was only forced through the minimum of four appointments before being approved.

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

laser or electrolysis, yeah - electrolysis is slower (and sometimes more expensive) but more thorough

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If her hair is dark enough then laser would be the first step because electrolysis is WAY more slower and expensive than laser.

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

oh that's a smart way to do it, true. should have mentioned about needing dark hair (and light enough skin) for laser