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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm like 99% sure that "Violence is never the answer" is just yet ever more rich fuck propaganda.

[–] Hossenfeffer 2 points 2 hours ago

I’m like 99% sure that “Violence is never the answer” is just yet ever more rich fuck propaganda.

"Violence (against the rich) is never the answer!" is what they really mean.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It's a good motto to not get into a petty fight for petty shit because of emotion. It did not mean all violence because you also need violence as a defence against violence.

On the other hand, if the next 4 years we(as in us who isn't from the US) didn't see a civil war or violence protest, then people like oop that love to repeat this stuff should totally go outside and touch grass. These teasing is getting tiring.

[–] paperemail@links.rocks 98 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It’s also very Liberal propaganda.

Martin Luther King Jr. protested and he won so peaceful protest works!

While of course barely mentioning the Black Panthers and how MLK was suddenly a reasonable alternative to their violent resistance.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago

And his "peace" was met with an extreme act of violence. Certainly was an answer for someone(s).

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The only reason MLK didn't do more was because what they were already doing was illegal, and anything more could get them jail time. And this is still what they thought of him and his "peaceful" protests:

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 32 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They did the same shit when they pretended that BLM burned down cities. We really don't learn even from our recent history, huh?

[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago

dying at this, what a perfect demonstration

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 17 hours ago

Same as it ever was.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 33 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly this. The "carrot and stick" strategy doesn't work without the stick. Every time a nonviolent movement achieves something, it's because they were seen as the preferable alternative to a more militant contemporary.

[–] paperemail@links.rocks 7 points 13 hours ago

Exactly. The same goes for implementing social welfare in the face of the Soviet Union and local communist movements.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago
[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 14 hours ago

Adventure time explained it pretty well imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2xakGZvLjI

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought it was just something we taught children

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

But it's bad to lie to children! Santa is practice God, "violence is never the answer" is practice "vote harder".