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Meanwhile On Grad
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Have you not read any interviews with Ukrainian military? Seen any of the patches on their uniforms? They call themselves Nazis. For fuck sake, they name streets after famous Nazis.
Every single thing they posted is true, from the Maiden Coup to Zelenskyy’s dictatorship. They’ve banned all opposition parties, banned opposition media, refuse to hold elections, and have been systematically killing Russian speakers in the east for over 10 years.
What happened 10 years ago in the east? Was it Russia invading due to oil reserve discoveries?
I know Ukrainians. I know eastern Ukrainians who protested against Yanukovych and were shot at so he could keep his gold loves of bread. I also know Russian/Ukrainians whose families emigrated to Ukraine after the USSR ethnically cleansed Crimea of the Tartars. Ukraine is a place with a complex past and lots of internal issues. But those issues are INTERNAL. They should have the right to work them out themselves. Russia invaded for oil and natural gas resources, plus the black sea ports. The rest is propaganda.
Calling targeting ethnic Russians an “internal issue” is wild, but on-brand with the pro-genocide stance being pushed by the western backing of the Ukrainian far-right.
They've been at war for ten years. That's like saying the US systematically killed German speakers for 4 years in the 1940's. And they haven't banned all opposition parties, just the Russian ones.
Russia invaded them three years ago, genius. And I love that you acknowledge they’re targeting ethnic Russians as part of the denial that they’re doing that.
You guys can’t keep your lies straight.
I'm just going to leave these right here. You don't have to click on them, but it would be cool if you did.
Crimea invasion
Donbas Invasion
The targeted killing of ethnic Russians preceded, and was used to justify, those events.
But the Maiden Coup got the entire thing rolling.
You mean the Russians made some shit up to justify invading Ukraine? Yeah we know that. And filling the streets with people doesn't work without the people. No matter what you want to say.
Which is it? It didn’t happen, or you support it? Pick a lane.
I never said the Maidan didn't happen. You can take your strawmen elsewhere.
Then what are you referring to with “made up some shit”?