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[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

They held a vote over if you wanted them to do something, and democrat voters stayed home while republicans showed up. We have literally no one to blame but ourselves. Vote if you get another chance, fight for that chance if you don't.

Edit: Please don't respond with your pathetic excuses for supporting fascism, I'm not reading them. I don't care how you justified it.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

False. The democrats ran a terrible campaign. Biden refused to step down, until it was too late to primary. They forced a candidate upon the country without a democratic process. Their campaign had terrible messaging and was tone deaf to the real situation the working class faces. They were unable to convince millions of voters that showed out for them last time to show up again. The democrats are more concerned with protecting their donors than they are protecting the working class and winning. Until you and everyone else oblivious can come to grips with this, nothing will change.

And before you say anything stupid, I voted for her.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

OP isn't wrong and neither are you. Democrats didn't show up, republicans did that is why Harris lost.

But Harris lost because of everything you wrote as well.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

Democrats could of stopped arming Israel but nooooo rather lose an election to fascists

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Poor Biden and Harris right? They did their bestest but if the people dont like them then maybe they just won't talk to them anymore. Good thing we have some adults in the room.

Guess who made an absurd amount of money losing the election? Do people not realize what donations are spent on?

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine spending a billion dollars on your elite media and consulting friends just to fucking lose

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Edit: You said it better.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Oh boy, now you're gonna get all the "no, it's Democrats' fault that I didn't vote!" people desperately trying to assuage the guilt they're feeling for the idiotic decision that they made in the face of countless people pleading with them not to.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I voted for Kamala. The blame is 100% on her and the Democrats for losing. Let's forget policy entirely and look at their strategic choices. They didn't hold a primary despite 60% of their own voters wanting a different candidate. They hid signs of Biden's cognitive decline until they were too public to ignore. When it was clear he could not win, they appointed a successor who failed to win a single state in 2020. She then went on to hire the same people who lost to Trump in 2016, and they lost again by running the same strategy of, "court disaffected Republicans," which failed n 2016.

It is the job of a political party to get people to vote for their candidate. The party failed to do this through spectacular incompetence. They are the only people who should feel guilty.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

lololol i have zero guilt over 3rd party vote. harris failed to do her job and present a case that would have made her an appealing candidate and therefor lost to fucking trump, who would have lost to a wet sandwich. Thats 100% entirely harris' fault for the campaign she ran which was built on 'not trump, not going to do shit for working class, oh and fuck arab americans genocide is a okay'

Im going to enjoy every minute of this cycle watching tears from a party that has been fucking over americans for my entire life and gaslighting them about it.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

FUCKING SAME. it’s schadenfreude drinking liberal tears at this point. They’re so out of touch it’s laughable how much the country hates them.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is a real "whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better". Somehow everyone is compelled to vote for politicians who are complicit in a genocide, but not to vote for anyone else - by the overwhelming argument of "it's what a lot of people voted for last time so we have to keep doing it".

And it's not the fault of the people who voted for the fascist that you're focused on - or your own fault for voting for someone who's also a fascist, but more subtle about it - no, it's only the people who didn't vote for any kind of fascist, who are at fault for the fascist being elected. I'm sure you think this logic is completely sane and not just the entire reason we have bipartisan fascism and support for genocide in the U.S., not to even get into the global empire.