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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They're going to use this for censorship.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Torproject.org. There's absolutely no way to censor the entire internet, short of entirely disconnecting the internet.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They're trying to ban tiktok. I've never used it but it's just because it's Chinese, social media from any other company based in any other country is just as fucked and unhealthy and unregulated in the US, but they are going to ban it specifically for its country of origin. China pills a lot of weight and the company tiktok is powerful and fighting it in court and all but it seems pretty obvious it'll go through even under current admin watch--let alone when a direct competitor and owner of Xitter owns the White House.

While yes, you're logistically correct it would be very difficult to shut down the whole Internet, that's not the goal, the goal is to massively control it and enshittify it beyond your worst dreams.

Look to China and Russia for "internet"TM

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fair point. But I just believe it goes to show that more websites need to be available on the darknet. Not because it's a scary or bad place to be, but because it can't be censored. Not nearly as easily, anyway. Top level domains can very easily be seized by the domain registrar or ICANN, etc. But since onion domains use keys, it's impossible to seize them without seizing the server they run on.

The vast majority of people are woefully ill-prepared for an adversarial internet.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago

I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I could see where some come from that TikTok is made to dumb down the generation and make them even more addicted than local versions (FB, IG, YT).
And with how much weight is behind Tiktok they are probably a very good entry for outside adversaries into local networks.

I mean how many have installed AliExpress or WeChat on their phone? Not many have gizmo apps from China (like DJI) but TikTok? Oh boy a fuckload of people have that.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But they'll call it freedom of speech. Speech someone/corp paid for of course, but Citizens United...

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Corporations are just sovereign citizens.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

That's funny because the local amazon delivery contractor doesn't have license plates on their rental delivery trucks just like SovCits. I hadn't thought of that but yes corporations have become sovereign citizens.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

Ministry of truth and all that.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Comcast going to start hiring reddit mods?

We could crowdsourse and pay Comcast tier 1 division to block reddit.