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[–] halowpeano@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it actually is interesting if you're going to call out humans as a species of animal!

All across species from unicellular to megafauna, from plants to fungus, you can find mechanisms used to defend an individual's physical territory. Ants and bees from the same species will fight and kill others colony members of they stray into their territory. Bears will fight and kill other bears. Our closest relatives, chimps, will go to war with neighboring chimp bands.

Artificial borders are humans way of saying "this is my territory enter at your own risk". The REALLY interesting thing is that we have established systematic exceptions to the behaviors we see in nature. "Ask us before you come and you can visit and be safe here from those that enforce our territory."

The temporary nature is unique, many social animals will permanently adopt an outsider into their group on occasion, equivalent to immigration, but I'm not aware of any that have pre-agreed temporary violations of group territory.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I guess you can draw that comparison, but then human territories are exponentially bigger than anything an equivalent social animal might claim as "enter at your risk" area. A traveling pack of dogs can just go around another pack's territory. We can't do that, we're boxed in. There's no neutral space left. I guess you could argue there's international waters, but that's practically inaccessible to most people.

[–] UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 0 points 16 hours ago

okay I don't know how to articulate this properly but i'll try;

fukn get rekt ngt