Yeah but not as annoying as stressing about making your rent paying because some Mr. Pink asshole decides to steal your wages by "making a stand" against tipping (while patronizing the restaurant that pays its workers a sub minimum wage with the expectation that anyone eating there will tip).

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago

Absolutely. Workers should not be tipped but currently they are tipped so not tipping as a customer is essentially stealing from underpaid workers. Tipping can not end with individual consumer bullshit, it takes union action or government intervention.

[–] frazorth 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I never said I wouldn't tip them.

I said they should get paid.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

then get all pissy if they don't get paid

Don't justify theft if you don't want people to call you a thief.

[–] frazorth 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

You just voted for the paedo orange who ran on a platform of fuck the workers.

My position is that this is shit and that people should be paid for the work they do.

Tipping is a bandage over employee abuse, the delivery company should be in jail at a minimum, guillotine is preferable.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

You just voted for the paedo orange who ran on a platform of fuck the workers.

I'm a communist, I did not vote for Donald Trump.

My position is that this is shit and that people should be paid for the work they do.

Yeah, but your position is also that waitresses shouldn't "get pissy" about it if some prick stiffs them right?

Tipping is a bandage over employee abuse, the delivery company should be in jail.

Yes. But the customer using the service and declining to pay for it belongs in jail just as much.

[–] frazorth 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm obviously doing a poor job communicating.

Why are Americans so afraid of charging people the cost of doing business and then get all pissy if they don't get paid what they believe to be the cost of doing business?

Yeah, but your position is also that waitresses shouldn't "get pissy" about it if some prick stiffs them right?

Not in the slightest, I'm saying that businesses are not charging for delivery and then getting pissy.

Those who do the work should be paid, the people getting pissy is door dash (or whoever etc) by refusing to pay these people unless the customer gifts them extra. Tips are not wages, however while you are stuck I'm this situation then pay them through your tips (and fuck those that don't)

If there is a lack of money to pay a person for the time they spent though this shitty system then door dash should make up the difference. The list of CxO income clearly shows that doordash makes enough to pay its workers, its purely choice they are not.

Next step should be molotov's until they change their policy.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry for misinterpreting you as saying that tipped workers shouldn't get upset for being stiffed and getting so hostile.

I've seen that kind of rhetoric on the internet several times and I'm maybe a little oversensitive to it.

[–] frazorth 3 points 7 hours ago

No worries, I tried rephrasing it a few times. I think some people got what I was saying, and I humbly apologise for suggesting you may have voted that way.

That was far over the line, and I was annoyed at you for suggesting that I thought that serving staff should suck it up.