Because by not including the price of labor in the price tag, the company allows customers who are more willing to buy a product if they can stuff the worker more access to the goods and services they're selling.

This let's the collude with bad or non-tippers to stiff the worker.

We absolutely must not give a pass to shitty people who are "anti-tipping" but continue to shop at industries that run on tips.

EDIT: I actually want to be more explicit here, fuck you specifically if this is your attitude frazorth, and fuck anyone who agrees with you. The "Americans" deciding to let you steal from their employees by letting you pay them or not, instead of requiring you to pay that extra money and then passing it on to the employee are absolutely at fault, but if you fly over here and expect not to tip the desperate workers who are waiting on you hand and foot in restaurants, hotels, and on delivery apps, I hope you choke on your food and fail to make it back to nonce Island.

[–] frazorth 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What? Are you alright, it looks like your having a bit of a breakdown.

Its my fault that NonceSA doesnt pay its employees?

And you've decided that I wouldn't pay the driver because I said fuck the delivery company for not paying them?

What a bellend.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

then get all pissy if they don't get paid

Don't justify theft if you don't want people to call you a thief.

[–] TerribleHands@hexbear.net 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They're not a thief because they don't live in an economy that requires tipping; they're an outsider looking in on American tipping culture and criticising it.

You Americans should tip because your economy demands it, but that doesn't mean it's not stupid.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Fine, they're just pro thief.

They just think that impoverished victims of theft should shut the fuck up about it.

[–] frazorth 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the leadership of doordash should be rounded up and shot.

https://www1.salary.com/DoorDash-Inc-Executive-Salaries.html

Keith Yandell $4.8 m

Prabir Adarkar $15.9 m

Tia Sherringham $12.6 m

Ravi Inukonda $12.6 m

$44.9 million a year between just 4 of the exec board. Fuck them.

I think that Door dash as an example makes quite a lot of money, and they should pay their drivers.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 1 points 11 hours ago

Agreed. Do you also think that people who use the services provided by door dash, but refuse to pay the delivery drivers (by refusing to tip) should also be punished, or should the drivers not get so pissy about those people?

[–] TerribleHands@hexbear.net 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see that in their comment at all.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I'm going to quote their comment

Why are Americans so afraid of charging people the cost of doing business and then get all pissy if they don't get paid what they believe to be the cost of doing business?

In this quote who is the "they" who is not being paid? What does it mean that they're "getting all pissy?"

Here's my interpretation:

"they" are a worker who is dependent on tips
"get all pissy" means to get upset, and has a negative connotation, like the person is being unreasonable by being so upset

I feel like I'm being fucked with here because this is pretty clearly, to my eyes, treating the plight of the person who was stiffed as something trivial. Treating the suffering of someone who was wronged as trivial pretty clearly to me is defending the person who wronged them.