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Plans are being made to freeze the conflict by sending 100,000 foreign troops to the country, according to the SVR

The West is secretly planning to occupy Ukraine and freeze the conflict with Russia by deploying tens of thousands of supposed peacekeepers to the country, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) has said.

In a statement on Friday, the spy agency cited intelligence sources as saying that NATO is increasingly in favor of halting the hostilities along the current front line, as the US-led military bloc and Ukraine have come to realize that they are failing to inflict a “strategic defeat” on Russia.

Freezing the conflict would allow the West to rebuild the shattered Ukrainian military and “prepare it for an attempt at revenge,” the SVR stated. It further claimed that NATO is already setting up training centers to process at least one million Ukrainian conscripts.

“To solve these tasks, the West will need to essentially occupy Ukraine. Naturally, this will be done under the guise of deploying a ‘peacekeeping contingent’ in the country… According to the plan, a total of 100,000 so-called peacekeepers will be deployed in Ukraine.”

According to the SVR, the plan would also involve Ukraine being partitioned into four large occupation zones. Romania would take the Black Sea coast, Poland would control Western Ukraine, and the UK would occupy the north, including Kiev. The central and eastern parts of the country would be taken by Germany, the agency claimed.

The SVR also alleged that Germany plans to revive practices implemented by the Nazi regime during World War II to “police” Ukraine. In particular, Berlin wants to create special “death squads” made up of Ukrainian nationalists to maintain order in the occupied territory, the statement read.

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[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Caveats for 1 are of course this would be domestically unpopular. The death count for Russia would go up dramatically. If Russia continues the war using conventional means after NATO pours troops in to try and freeze it the dangers of being locked into inescapable cycle of escalation to full nuclear war rise dramatically.

1 Is mostly very bad for Russia, but one way that I could see it actually being a good strategic choice is if China massively supports Russia in a material way. As China is the west's next target after Russia, having Russia tying all of the west would be a massive win for them, although Russia would need a way to field enough soldiers and they would have to defend their rear against attacks.

For the first China could help with their massive economy and perhaps having both countries in some sort of free trade alliance, and as for the second China could station tripwire troops east of the Urals which would allow China to help Russia develop their industry in that area to support the war efforts and Chinese production with ease. These might work well as means to avoid your third point.

Caveats for 2 are it would probably give the west the impetus to use their own nuclear weapons within Ukraine on the east and Russian forces and think they can play by those rules.

Good point. Second point is that Ukraine is a discardable puppet to the west, so anything happening in Ukraine doesn't matter to the west and any attempt to match western escalation by Russia attacking Ukraine will be seen as a weekness of Russia, which would likely escalate to more hits inside Russia and more likely nuclear war.

If Russia is to use a nuke they need to use it at least on one/a few US/western bases outside the west, like al-Tanf or the colonist entity. Anything less than that will be seen as a sign that Russia will not attack the US no matter what, which to be fair, I don't blame the west for thinking that as I personally don't see Russia attacking the west directly either.

Russia’s hesitancy to take a stronger line out of fear of the west escalating has played right into their hands all along. It’s what allowed Ukraine to become as much of a problem as it was by the time the SMO was launched. So their fear of escalation from the west, their hesitancy in rebuking them more directly and strongly in actions because of fear of escalation has led to inevitable escalation due to the west’s feeling that Russia is all bluff and will choose to back down as they have time and again.

Considering Putin was just a few day ago talking about becoming closer to Europe again I would say it's better to just assume they won't ever attack the west directly, unlike what Iran did. They might someday reach the point where they have to do it, but if it doesn't happen in the next few weeks I don't see it happening anytime soon.