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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you now arguing that raw milk is safe and pasteurization is unnecessary because the only incredibly dangerous and infectious diseases that are spread by raw milk are bacterial or are you just trying to deflect? Because I'm thinking it's the latter. I'm thinking you know how deadly and dangerous many of those diseases are and how they can easily spread from person to person.

Although admittedly, I could have misjudged you this entire time, thinking you were an intelligent and rational person, when in fact you are supremely ignorant. But I don't think that is the case, I think you're just evading.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Me: Still i would like to say that i don’t think raw milk is a problematic vector for pandemics to spread. Chance is people will get the shits if hygiene is bad, but i doubt a viral pandemic to spread because of raw milk. More likely would be farm workers getting an infection over the air and then spreading it to other humans.

You: People who study viruses for a living seem to think it’s possible, but I guess as long as you doubt it, no problem.

Me: Pandemic from raw milk? Do you have a source for that?

I am still waiting for the answer on my question. And again if you have such great knowledge in virology and i am lacking such knowledge it should be easy for you to provide me with comprehensive sources supporting your claim, that "People who study viruses for a living seem to think it’s [a viral pandemic to spread because of raw milk] possible"

Putting words in my mouth and changing the goal post doesn't change the fact that you claim knowledge about virological matters, that you refuse to support with sources.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep. Evading. Especially when the largest pandemic in history, the black death, was bacterial (yes, yes, not caused by food).

But go ahead and believe that all of the communicable diseases I listed above, many of which can become airborne and transmissible from human to human, are not a problem related to raw milk that can easily be avoided with a 1000-year-old technique.

I don't think anything more productive can come out of this discussion now that you're just basically trolling.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 19 hours ago

Why do we not have issues with the plague anymore? Because of hygiene. Did any of the diseases you mentioned from raw milk cause pandemics? No. Are there other Bacterial diseases that had been local pandemics? Yes. Cholera mainly. Was the transmission mainly from human to human? No, it was usually through contaminated water.

This is very different from the viral pandemics by the like of the Spanish Flu or the SARS viruses. But none of these spread from people eating contaminated food.