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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

This just piles up on the reasons Russia needs to be denuclearisased, putin getting ousted, democracy installed and so on.

Good news Russias economy is in the toilet and someone has started flushing already, Ukrain will prevail and hopefully we'll have peace one day.

[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (3 children)

More realistically, he'll probably die of old age or be ousted by someone younger and more exciting to the wealthy elite that keep Putin in power. Real change may come after that, but a change in leadership is not going to immediately fix long term issues like corruption, wealth disparity, etc.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think they will become a Chinese vassal.

I don't know exactly what that'd look like, but the pure economic/political dynamics make it seem kinda inevitable.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A unified China/Russia alliance sounds like a player in a near future sci-fi, so I'll take that as a good sign

[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A unified China/Russia alliance

The Red Alert and Generals cross over we don't want!

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 12 points 3 days ago

Unless the Russians violently purge there elites, a new dictator will take the seat before the corpse is cold. He may even hold a sham election to "legitimize" himself as the best person to sand next to a window with.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True. Another possibility is that the economy (and infrastructure gotten their maintenance money stolen for 20 years and starts to crumble) goes down with a skyrocketing inflation going to the moon killing the ruble, and who knows what happens when you can't pay your army any more ...

Interesting times for russia.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Oh, so China expands to fill that void and hands out a portion to Kim Jong Ug before repainting things?

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Take it with a grain of salt, as I am not an expert, but it looks like China would prefer an 'independent' country that is ruled by Chinese government in secret. That way they don't need to fix and repair all the shit, and can only spend bare minimum of effort needed to keep ~~slaves~~ citizens alive

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, so Russia & N.K. already, then? Let's not even start with Iran, et al. 👀🤌🏼

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I doubt the USA would let them do that freely, but it's an interesting take.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uh. I've got some news you might not enjoy, citizen...

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Sure, who knows. It'd be a full mess though.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Russia is Game of Thrones in real life. I wouldn't bet on positive change there.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This just piles up on the reasons Russia needs to be denuclearisased, putin getting ousted, democracy installed and so on.

Indeed and same goes for israel or USA. Every nation involved in shady actions should be denucleariased and its politician held account for their crimes.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

Hey, at least you know what the possessive form of "it" is. 🤓🤘🏽

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Good luck with that.