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Spacey, who was also celebrating his 64th birthday on Wednesday, began to cry and mouthed "thank you" to the nine men and three women jurors, before wiping away tears with a tissue.

The Hollywood star spoke with five of the jurors in the lobby of Southwark Crown Court, before emerging from the building to address a phalanx of journalists and photographers.

"I imagine that many of you can understand that there's a lot for me to process after what has just happened today," he said. "I am humbled by the outcome today."

He also said he was "enormously grateful to the jury for having taken the time to examine all of the evidence and all of the facts carefully before they reached their decision".

Spacey was swarmed by cameras as he then walked to a waiting taxi, as some members of the public clapped and wished him happy birthday and one woman shouted: "We love you, Kevin."

During the four-week trial, prosecutors described the actor as a "sexual bully" who had aggressively groped three of the men and performed oral sex on the fourth while he had passed out in Spacey's London apartment.

Spacey, tried under his full name Kevin Spacey Fowler, said in evidence that the case against him was weak, and that the incidents, if they had occurred at all, were consensual. He said he was promiscuous, a "big flirt" who had "casual, indiscriminate sexual encounters".

One of complainants alleged Spacey painfully grabbed his crotch like "a cobra" in the mid-2000s, an allegation Spacey described as "absolute bollocks", using a British slang term for testicles and for something which is nonsense.

While he said he might have made a clumsy pass at one of the men, he said he had never assaulted anyone and suggested that the accusers had come forward to make money.

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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A lot of guilty rich people are found innocent and a lot of innocent poor people are found guilty. The justice system is frequently flawed in its execution.

There’s no reason to assume simply because a court doesn’t find him guilty, that he is innocent.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There’s actually some pretty important reasons to assume someone is innocent when a judge says so. Or do you really want to live in a world where everyone rules by consensus that you’re guilty the very minute you’re arrested?

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We live in a world with an unjust justice system.

It’s dangerous to implicitly trust such a system.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also dangerous to assume that certain groups of people are automatically guilty even after they've had their day in court.

But I know nothing of the UK's system of justice so I'll hear ya out; is there some reason to believe this whole trial was a sham?

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Acquittal doesn't mean proved innocent. It only means not proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Should we just call it 'ice' then?

EDIT: Because 'justice' without the 'just' part. But okay.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 1 year ago

It’ll all be water in a few more years anyway.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The need to assume innocence until proven guilty is a legal one only.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The first part of your first sentence is true. The the second part of your first sentence is also true. I'm not an expert but I find it plausible that your second sentence is true.

But trying to imply causality between those two sentences is where I wouldn't be so quick.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

On a related note, we haven't burned a witch in forever and I've got all this wood stockpiled!

As they say in the Utopian Fiction Warhammer 40,000: "Innocence proves nothing"