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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Walz supports Israel making a preemptive strike on Iran, not the US. At no point did he or Harris say they would use US troops in an offense against Iran.

The Democratic party was always the fascist party but with "the mask on

Not anywhere close to reality. The democratic party in no way meets the definition of fascism.

"Diplomacy is my preferred path to that end, but ALL OPTIONS are on the table,” she added.

So the same as literally every president ever.

he was not tough enough toward the Iranian threat.

He cozies up to all the dictators because he wants to be one, so yeah he wasn't tough enough. He let them out of their treaty which was preventing their atomic weapons research. Keeping nukes out of the hands of an authoritarian theocracy is a good thing.

This is why she was never going to end the Genocide in Palestine.

Except she and Biden have been pushing for peace nonstop.

Meanwhile Trump said he would encourage Israel to "finish the job" which means kill them all.

an army should only be defensive

The best defense is to be the most lethal army so nobody wants to fight you. That has been US policy for BOTH parties since WW2. It's a good policy because it keeps us out of wars.

That policy is getting us closer to nuclear war and you think it's good that Kamala Harris wanted to follow it !?

The policy for Democrats in past decades has been mutual disarmament of nukes. Trump wants us building more.

Again, she is just being the fascist with the mask on, instead of being mask off like Trump.

Again, you need to look up the definition of fascism because Harris in no way meets it.

And just to remember you, I do not support Donald Trump, I never did and never will.

If you didn't vote for Harris, you did support Trump.

[–] normal_user@lemmy.one 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I took a few days to reply because honestly it is exhausting.
You know, when some people online call you Russian Bot, it does make you wonder if any of you will ever see through the Dems propaganda. But there is also the possibility that I am the one talking to bots.

I do believe that, at the end, time will prove me right. After all they do say that "A liberal is someone who opposes every war except the current war" .

That said, I'm probably going to respond a little to this one because it is honestly the most brain-worms comment I might have ever read.

Walz supports Israel making a preemptive strike on Iran, not the US.

There is no material difference between Israel striking Iran with the backing of the US and the US doing it directly. Israel fights with US-made weapons and with full US approval.
And by the way, the current government is actually sending troops to Israel to operate defensive weapons, this lets Israel focus on attacking border countries and commit Genocide. The majority of Americans oppose this btw, so obviously a few day before the vote, the Dems decided to increase how many soldiers are deployed there.
Also it does not matter that there are no US troops in the contested territory, the Israeli army acts as part of the US army.
All of this is already happening under the supervision and approval of Kamala Harris.

It really makes you wonder if the Democratic Party even wants to win.

Except she and Biden have been pushing for peace nonstop.

Don't make me laugh.

“Let me just make this clear: The vice president has been and will be a strong supporter of Israel as a secure democratic and Jewish state, and she will always ensure that Israel can defend itself, period. Because that’s who Kamala Harris is,”

In this article there are also a lot more parts that i could quote and would make it clear that K.Harris does not care about peace in the Middle East. After all, that's why this happened.

And I also don't agree with your point about having the most lethal army.
After all, the US is the only country to ever launch a nuclear bomb at another country. And they had plans to throw one at Vietnam, Korea and China as well.

I don't think that the US should be allowed to hold any more nuclear weapons, the US government is the crazy, out-of-control political power that should not have nukes.

The idea that supporting and helping Genocide does not count as fascist is also baffling to me. A lot of people seem to wonder what they would have done if they were a German in Nazi Germany. I think this makes it very clear what you position would have been, you would not have cared, not even a little bit.

All your other points were already answered enough in the previous comment, so i won't waste time. You are pretending not to understand, and that's fine. Especially because a see a clear difference in effort between us, I have to provide sources for everything, you can just make up stuff on the spot, no citations, no quotes, no nothing. And I can see that your understanding of geopolitics is entirely vibe-based and your understanding of how the world works is elementary at best.

I would not be surprised to find out that you are one of the people that only reads the headlines of articles and believes in the "Horseshoe theory". But I guess that's very common for blue MAGAs.

Honestly you are deeply unserious.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

There is no material difference between Israel striking Iran with the backing of the US and the US doing it directly.

It is a huge material difference to the American soldiers who would be sent to fight and their families.

Don't make me laugh.

Perhaps you need to examine yourself for weaknesses to propaganda, because it is 100% true Harris wants peace between Palestine and Israel.

Harris says she won't give up pushing for end to Israel-Gaza war

Harris says two-state solution, end of Israel-Hamas war is crucial

Kamala Harris vows to end war in Gaza during final Michigan rally

I don't think that the US should be allowed to hold any more nuclear weapons, the US government is the crazy, out-of-control political power that should not have nukes.

And everyone should have a unicorn and an endless chocolate fountain. No nation should have nukes, but that's the reality. As long as they exist, mutually assured destruction is the only realistic policy to prevent their use.

The idea that supporting and helping Genocide does not count as fascist is also baffling to me

Fascism is a specific political philosophy.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Especially because a see a clear difference in effort between us, I have to provide sources for everything, you can just make up stuff on the spot, no citations, no quotes, no nothing

I've done this long enough to know citation is a waste of time in this conversation because either A) you won't look at it or B) you'll make up some excuse it's not valid.

But I guess that's very common for blue MAGAs.

Imagine saying something so absurd and then calling the other person unserious...