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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Remember, the only way to deport millions of people in a timely manner is concentration camps.

And they have to stay in those camps until extradition treaties are finalized. If the country refuses to accept that immigrant back? They're going to stay in that camp indefinitely. And if Trump crashes the economy, as is predicted, those camps will start getting expensive.

Maybe the Trump administration will start looking into the Final Solution to the Immigration Problem.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Part of me thinks that this proposal will end up the same as his "Wall" that Mexico was going to pay for. Either incompetence or apathy will make this part of his proposal quietly go away. There will be some token deportations of illegals that were going to be deported anyways, but they'll make a bigger deal about it, then it'll just sort of slink away and somehow not be as big of a problem as it was made out to be for the past year or so.

Or we go full-scale with the concentration camps. It's kind of a toss-up at this point. The only thing working in our favor is Trump's general incompetence and chaotic headspace, he's his own biggest enemy sometimes.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

There will be some token deportations of undocumented immigrants that were going to be deported anyways,

Fuck that bullshit, this makes as much sense as saying "well, there probably will be some summary executions of people charged with crimes, but they were gonna be found guilty anyway".

The only thing working in our favor is Trump's general incompetence and chaotic headspace, he's his own biggest enemy sometimes.

He's got fascist toadies who are very intent on this in his administration who will keep him organized and focused. What we have in our favor is hundreds of millions of Americans who think xenophobia is idiotic hateful bullshit.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, tens of thousands (sometimes hundreds of thousands) of people are deported from the country every year already, whether Democrat or Republican presidents are in office, deportations (or "repatriations") actually went up since 2020 when Biden took office. They've been on their way down though back to "normal" pre-Covid levels, but it's hard to say what would happen under Trump. From 2016 to 2020 they actually fell to a low of 27k for at least a little bit.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I mean, tens of thousands (sometimes hundreds of thousands) of people are deported from the country every year already, whether Democrat or Republican presidents are in office,

Sure, I agree that the Democratic party's collaboration with fascism has been awful. No time like the present to fight for a change in what we've been doing.

it's hard to say what would happen under Trump.

We can make some pretty good guesses about what Republicans will attempt to do. Nothing's guaranteed but it virtually inevitable they will try to make the situation worse.

From 2016 to 2020 they actually fell to a low of 27k for at least a little bit.

Feels like you're cherry picking a bit here, but yeah - general Republican antipathy towards bureaucracies and bureaucratic administration sometimes makes them bad at being able to follow through on their plans to hurt people and that's probably something we can try to take advantage of.

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