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[–] mtnwolf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Let's be honest, this price change was all about being able to charge the big corps mega money for access to their data in order to train new generations of AI. The price is absurd, yes, but the owners of reddit know that Google and Microsoft have deep pockets (among other global corps wanting the massive amount of data reddit has saved).

They never expected the third party apps to be able to pay this much and frankly, they don't care. It's HUGE profit from AI corps, and the losses, at least short term, will be overshadowed by the gains. Long term? I don't know, this isn't my area of expertise, but, like I did with Twitter, I have moved on so at this point, it's no longer relevant to me.

[–] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm deleting all my posts, one by one on June 29. Then deleting my account

I used shreddit to delete all mine today. Made a little tweak to the source to replace all my comments with a fuck you message to spez before deleting them.

[–] RarePepeCollector@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too easy to scrape that data, the replies don't update much after 2 days, and even then it's pretty easy to re-scrape and check. And the data is not owned by reddit, its actually owned by their users. So if MS wants to scrape it, they need copyright permissions from the user, not reddit.

[–] mtnwolf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

True, users do maintain copyright of anything they write, but they also give reddit license to use it how it wants, including sub-licensing it to others. That means the corps absolutely DO NOT need the permission of users to train their AI. They just buy the rights to use the data from reddit.

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This includes images and videos that are uploaded to the reddit servers directly.

Reddit has the right to use the data and sell that data to others. Also, some data you can scrape, but there's additional data that is available only through the API. Web scraping is not reliable, especially if reddit actively flags your spider and blocks it. They are not the idiots we want to believe they are. No mega corp is going to risk not having competitive access to data to feed their AIs when the cost for them to just pay is insignificant.

[–] PhilxBefore@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

This shit was definitely not in the user agreement when I signed up in 2007.