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How many dead Palestinian kids will it take for you to change your vote?

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 74 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Like how is Trump going to genocide worse? They acknowledge Harris is doing genocide, and then say Trump will be worse, and it's like... EVERYONE IS GONNA BE FUCKING DEAD YOU CAN'T DO WORSE THAN EVERYONE IS DEAD.

I probably need to log off I'm going to need to log off for the night.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 69 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Literally heard them say "Trump will let them use nukes"

And it's like

You know why they usually genocide people?

To take their stuff!

They're not going to nuke them, they want the land!

[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, the wind from the Mediterranean would blow the fallout from a Gaza nuke directly to the east. The reason people have nukes is to attack countries on the other side of the world, not their neighbors. Multiple Hiroshima's worth of conventional bombs have already been dropped since 10/7...

[–] someone@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is one of the reasons I'm a little worried for Yemen. They're exactly the sort of target the Israeli government might consider dropping nukes on. A relatively distant country that's been a major pain in their ass, which they have no intention of invading, and which wouldn't be a fallout issue for them.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fortunately, they can't hit Yemen without radiation hitting KSA or Djibouti, their collaborators.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I highly doubt that the Israeli government thinks of either the citizenry or the ruling class of either of those countries as equals worthy of protection from harm.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No but nuking them would make enemies out of them, cut off their Red Sea access permanently, and likely align the whole Muslim world firmly against them.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and likely align the whole Muslim world firmly against them.

What would they do against a country willing and able to launch nukes?

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

5 nukes is not going to give you dictatorial power over 300 million people spread across 4 time zones. The Zionist regime survives because it is able to make passive bystanders out of its neighbors. It would not survive the loss of that situation.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Ah yes a nuke would be so much worse than the... thousands of bombs currently being thrown at refugee camps internet-delenda-est
I do believe Israel would do it though. Yes it is incredibly stupid, only something someone with a babys understanding of the world would even consider, but then again... It's Israel.

[–] MrStalin@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The question I always wonder is, even if Trump's genocide would be worse, do you think the Palestinian people care about the degree to which they're being genocided?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Right? Genocide has one conclusion: extermination. What is greater or lesser in extermination?

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

Trump will conclude it five minutes sooner.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trump will use Juche necromancy taught to him by juche-boi to revive and re-kill a couple children. trump-feed

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Trump loves money. One of the best ways best way for him to get more money once in power is increasing our military spending on Israel aid, that’s the “but worse” part. In what world do you think he’d do the inverse of maintaining his power? There’s a reason the military industrial complex wants him in power

From a .world account

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

Trump's money, whatever he has, is all in real estate, isn't it? Like this is silly libshit but it's not even vaguely true afaik. Trump doesn't know shit about the MIC and afaik the military brass, DoD, and MIC execs don't like him.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

They don't think Democrats have tons of $ invested in military stocks?

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'd say they aren't sending their best, but the sad thing is that they are.

Wasn't Trump the guy who fired Bolton? Didn't he fire Bolton for being a warhawk?

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't Cheney endorsing Kamala?

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The war criminal Richard Cheney ~~who had nothing to do with 9/11~~? That can't be right, who would think his endorsement would be a good thing?
...
Yeah and she's campaigning with his daughter for some reason

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasn’t Trump the guy who fired Bolton? Didn’t he fire Bolton for being a warhawk?

Literally yes, in 2019 i think when entire USA pushed for the war with Iran, then they backed off in last moment, but Bolton didn't get the memo and was sacked for poor reflex in being a warhawk. Funniest thing came later when he wrote a very salty book in which he accused Trump of multiple instances of being unamerican like stopping from attacking Iran, knowing on map where China is, having a common sense to not blindly attack it though entire Pacific, cooling out some Holdens rep senators and such

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Funniest thing came later when he wrote a very salty book in which he accused Trump of multiple instances of being unamerican like stopping from attacking Iran, knowing on map where China is, having a common sense to not blindly attack it though entire Pacific

erm-this-you but also heartbreaking

[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The republicans are the party of the petite bourgeois who are generally more isolationist than neolibs. They support Israel for culture war reasons but if supporting actually started hurting their boat dealerships they'd start calling Trump to redirect aid to building more border walls.

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

I know several magats who somewhat oppose Israel and Ukraine through the lens of wasting taxpayer money. They still see Palestinians as subhumans though.