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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 48 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

To think Howard Dean sunk his campaign over an excited scream. If Trump wasn't the rizzler and our politics in 2024 wasn't insane this would go down in the record books of "shit that sunk a presidential bid."

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 51 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The scream didn't sink the campaign, every single media outlet insisting that the scream sank his campaign, sank his campaign.

He was doing pretty well as the most progressive candidate. MSM had to scramble and come up with a reason to publish a thousand articles about how voters didn't think he was electable. Which made him unelectable.

Great example of tail wagging the dog and crazy how well it worked.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I supported him because he was for universal healthcare. Last time I checked he's a lobbyist specializing in preventing universal healthcare.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Not to carry water for some liberal ghoul but the entire country abondoning you because the media performed an obvious hatchet job amputation on your campaign would probablly be a pretty strong motivator for anybody to say "fuck these stupid asshole if this is the thanks i get for helping them I just wanna know who's gonna sign the biggest check possible for me"

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 11 points 4 weeks ago

he was for universal healthcare. Last time I checked he's a lobbyist specializing in preventing universal healthcare

That's So Democrat

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 2 points 4 weeks ago

Many such cases.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 4 points 4 weeks ago

I'm just glad that Dean was replaced by a man with a clearly electable personality: that volleyball with Tom Hanks' handprint on it made to look like a lil smiley face.

[–] 0__0@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Isn't Trump kinda the one to bring that about tho? Idk much about howard dean, but I assume he was at least somewhat respected as a politician beforehand. With that scream, in a kind of patriarchical society creating a mythos of education and prestige around politicians, revolving around political etiquette that scream is simply seen as infantile and unserious. Trump entered politics as that kind of infantile and unserious candidate in the first place, being a cartoonish, stereotypical, Saul Goodman-esque figure. In the end, it's all about expectations that people set. Nobody believed agent orange would win, but in the end he did because he represented a kind of tonal shift in american politics, not to mention straight up saying what all these bourgeois politicians already believed anyway. In the same way LGBTQIA+ want to practice their sexuality without the fear of being killed, beaten or prosecuted, that is the same way in the opposite direction in which fascists want to freely express their racist, sexist, homophobic views without any consequences. Trump said these things out loud, and republicans found him 'cool' because he didn't beat around the bush, at least in the public, about their true beliefs.

Ultimately, Trump isn't some anomaly. He's just a natural unmasking of the fascist paradigm of amerikkka.

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

i'm excited for the next trump. should be even more unhinged and absurd and evil.

[–] 0__0@hexbear.net 9 points 4 weeks ago

It's looking like we already have him in vivek