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In October 1776, the Public Universal Friend contracted an epidemic disease and was bedridden and near death with a high fever. Their family summoned a doctor from Attleboro, six miles away, and neighbors kept up a death-watch at night. The fever broke after several days. The Friend later reported that [deadname redacted] had died, receiving revelations from God through two archangels who proclaimed there was "Room, Room, Room, in the many Mansions of eternal glory for Thee and for everyone". The Friend further said that [deadname redacted]'s soul had ascended to heaven and the body had been reanimated with a new spirit charged by God with preaching his word, that of the "Publick Universal Friend", describing that name in the words of Isaiah 62:2 as "a new name which the mouth of the Lord hath named".

From that time on, the Friend refused to answer to their deadname, ignoring or chastising those who insisted on using it. When visitors asked if it was the name of the person they were addressing, the Friend simply quoted Luke 23:3 ("thou sayest it").β€Š Identifying as neither male nor female, the Friend asked not to be referred to with gendered pronouns. Followers respected these wishes; they referred only to "the Public Universal Friend" or short forms such as "the Friend" or "P.U.F.", and many avoided gender-specific pronouns even in private diaries. When someone asked if the Friend was male or female, the preacher replied "I am that I am", saying the same thing to a man who criticized the Friend's manner of dress (adding, in the latter case, "there is nothing indecent or improper in my dress or appearance; I am not accountable to mortals").

editorial note: I think this is a very cool story and I really love hearing it. We've been around forever and we've been doing variations of this forever. It's really beautiful


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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I discuss transphobia/terfs a lil, nothin specific thoI was rolling this fucking Shiela Jeffreys (deeply unserious woman) quote around in my head, the one about men and histories of transgression and whatever. The easy answer is that cis men beinv more privileged to do transgressive anything stops when... you stop being a cis man, because it's societally constructed. Duh.Real brainworm consumers know.

The thing I finally hit on though, is that I don't think there's literally a single terf argument or "theory" that cannot be defeated by realising "these fuckin' losers, their entire thing hinges on taking assigned gender as sacred and absolute and true. Gender assignment was literally made up by people based on "common traits" they observed thousands of years ago, it's demonstrably insufficient to describe humans, and yet these dweebs want to base their discrimination on it? They're literally licking the boot that presses on their throats."

Felt kinda good independently using the theory I've absorbed to bust up goofy terf screeds. 3am I-skipped-my-gabapentin thoughts :3

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good genderposting. I just wish that this entire basis of thought holds power because it is in the interest of the bourgeoise power base to uphold colonial gender roles, and we subvert that by simply existing.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Existence is resistance, silence is death, all that good stuff. Ty ✨

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

nah thank you for being cool and transgender, in that order. alphys-smug

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

aubrey-happy sie thinks I am a cool transgender, chat!!!!!!!

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Also just want to say how good it feels to have someone refer to me as "sie" I don't use those pronouns irl(yet), and they were initially an experiment, but they feel really good.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am making an effort to gender people because it's fun and makes them feel good doggirl-happy happy I could help!

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, Ash(https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/14c2707b-51cb-44ed-be2f-f262d088e219.png "emoji heart-sickle")

out of curiosity, how does it feel for you when trans folks use "they" for you? I remember that you used to have those pronouns on your name, and removed them after unpleasant interactions with gamers on the bearsite. ![heart-sickle]

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

heart-sickle

Uh I find it amusing if people dunno what my gender is, doesn't hurt but not my favourite set. I am sadly still caught up on dorky binary pronouns, some fuckin gender accelerationist...

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

nah, you're still rad as hell. I was just curious, because I find everyone's interiority with their gender so fucking cool. rosa-salute

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My interiority with my gender is dumb and also gay but thank you fidel-salute

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

sounds powerful and also gay af to me anya-heh

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

It’s just facts! anya-heh

[–] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Thanks I try, my cooked lil brain :3

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

rolling this fucking Shiela Jeffreys (deeply unserious woman) quote around in my head, the one about men and histories of transgression and whatever

do you have it handy? i can't find which ine you're talking about

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How dare you make me dredge this up:

Terf quote"Transgression has a long history among upper-class males.

It is not a strategy available to the house wife, the prostituted woman, or the abused child. They are the objects of transgression, rather than its subjects."

DiscussingThis quote is 200% epic because it not only does the victimisation=identity thing, but it also assumes that... gender transgressions from (in code) anyone who was assigned male are targeted at women and children somehow? And also of course that the cis man could never stop being a cis man. It's peak silliness. I got this from a Rosencrutz video :3