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Scrap the anachronistic monarchy and replace it with a President… the election might help to unite the country. The uk needs more politicians. What could possibly go wrong with electing a president? It’s not like it could destroy a country from the inside. That’s never happened.
Historically Monarchies have been far more damaging to human rights in general.
https://historycooperative.org/history-of-human-rights/
About as valuable as saying. More shit happened in the far past then recent past.
Democracy is a pretty recent experiment. And over the time it has grown. Some pretty evil shit has been done in its name. Comparing it to 1000s of rears in the past where few nations past of any power had other options. Is hardly cause and effect.
Nothing more then desperate point scoring on either side.
*than
The point was to show why there aren't many Monarchies anymore and the ones that are, usually amount to little more than a mascot.
Unfortunately fails when you look at timing.
The UK started democracy in 1690. When we cut the kings head off. Messed up the republic with religiose zealotry. And started our current constitutiomal Monarchy with a powerless monarch.
Slavery in Africa begun after that mainly started by the Spanish. But that British democracy did some of the most harm raising cities.
The finally ended it in 1838. But democratic America built entirly from it continued for nearly 40 years more.
The 2nd World War was started by democratic Germany. Along with the holocaust.
I'm sorry but no. Democracy was at no point a change in human morality. Humans were shit under all forms of management. Democracy was simply no worse.
I'm actually on the side of a republic, but the ownership of the royals in the UK is...interesting.
If we were to decide to get rid tomorrow, they don't suddenly not exist. They essentially move into a position where they are more tied to the outcome of Britain than many of our politicians, and the blocker on them holding political opinions is revoked - not that it ever fucking stopped them.
Furthermore, they outright own a lot of land, businesses, and buildings. They would own this if we got rid, and would basically hold enough capital to be multi-billionaires for many generations, if not centuries.
IMO the best thing that the UK can do is chip away at their power, while also reducing them to a point where they make income that is tied to the populace rather than making more money as crown estate custodians. If the people are poor, cut their income or push them towards more marketing of the royals to make money for the country.
I’ve been thinking about your answer… I’m not a Republican simply because I don’t think yet another politician and election would help - so I’m kind of a monarchist by accident I suppose. You mentioned chipping away at their power - we started that process in the early 1200’s (ce) with the Magna Carta. Surely we must be nearly done by now? I know things take a while on the UK; but that wait seems ridiculous.