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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20911849

By Umar A Farooq in Washington
Published date: 30 September 2024 11:01 BST

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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Me: "Not killing innocent people is a pretty good single issue, though."

You: "No, it’s an absolutely shitty, irrelevant single issue..."

Okay. I will stop expecting humans to treat other humans with decency. After all, we can't expect innocent people not to be oppressed and exploited. Frankly, I only get cheap technology because of slave labour, so therefore I have to not care about humans. At least I'm doing well, living in a country with a generally higher standard of living.

Thanks for setting my mind at ease. I will swap my moral expectations for being complacent. That will make the world better, because - as we know - the human drive for profit is not in any way creating outcomes that are bad for the world.

If it turns out I'm lying to myself I can just end my life. For, after all, life is not an important issue. Easy come, easy go.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's an absolutely shitty, irrelevant single issue IN THIS ELECTION because there's no meaningful difference between the two candidates on it. (Actually, there is a meaningful difference but the trolls are trying to propagandize against the candidate that's less bad on it, so clearly they don't actually give a flying fuck about the thing they dishonestly claim to care about.)

But you damn well already fucking knew that, so quit your bullshit strawmanning.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's an absolutely shitty, irrelevant single issue IN THIS ELECTION because there’s no meaningful difference

Human lives are not an irrelevant issue. You pretending to rationalise otherwise makes it clear that you would happily be rationalising voting for Trump, as long as it brought benefits to you. "Yeah, well, he might oppress queer people and immigrants and women, BUT he would lower business tax and I'd make a profit." (Unless, of course, you're not rationalising, and you just don't care about when people who aren't you die).

I don't solely care about what's best for me. I care about other beings. That you don't agree is of no interest to me, except to make a mental note to not take on board your sense of morality.

If, as you say, these two candidates are so similar when it comes to protecting innocent lives, I won't vote for either of them.

 

But you damn well already fucking knew that, so quit your bullshit strawmanning.

You're so angry that I'm not voting for Harris. I can imagine you easily pivoting to be angry I'm not voting for Trump. You present absolutely nothing of interest to me, as you are motivated solely by what you prefer. The chance of you making the world better, at this moment, seems to be zero.