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Mine is when a lib says that a socialist leader is filthy rich because le ebil dictator owns literally everything in the country.

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[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can pressure democrats left after voting for them unconditionally

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean you can but it's just not effective.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What is their incentive to listen to you if you make it clear you'll vote for them unconditionally

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Most are terrified of their constituents. If there are mass protests and people pressuring constantly they will listen even if this vote was unconditional.

But this is why they work so hard to keep us just poor enough we can't afford to revolt but not so poor that we have nothing left to lose.

Like I said ineffective but not impossible.

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I feel like the systemic response to BLM completely negates your assertion. If mass riots don't get even token police reform as a result, then it's pretty clear that our leaders don't give a shit about anything short of someone putting a gun to their head.

[–] pastalicious@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hey the NYPD created that discipline matrix in response to it to hold cops accountable. Why yes it is in the news recently because that corrupt police chief just weakened it, why yes he has already weakened it before and yes Garcetti had whined about how unfair it was and weakened it already before that, and yes both of them are alleged to have ignored it and let cops get away with things on the matrix.

Oh Hrm forget I said anything

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 3 points 1 month ago

Compare the civil rights movement vs BLM movement. That was not sustained protesting, it was not constant and real pressure. It was a flash in the pan, and worse, it showed that the citizens of the US dont have the stomach to do it for real again.

Until we are willing to disrupt the whole economy, and shut down suburban white America, approximately jack all will be done.

I think if anything BLM proves my point because the fascists actually had to show up and use violence and false flags to try to subvert the success that was happening. If BLM had gone on longer and wider I really think congress would have shit a collective brick because o shit were they terrified.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

They're terrified of their electorate not voting for them. If everyone has already committed to voting for them regardless there's no leverage to exert pressure