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Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance has dug in on his claim Haitians in an Ohio community are abducting and eating pets, even as the state’s GOP governor and other officials insist there is no evidence of such behavior.

But the salacious claim was easily debunked.

“The Vance campaign provided the Wall Street Journal with a police report to prove their claims about cat-eating Haitians in Springfield. The WSJ spoke to the woman who filed it, who said she later found her cat alive and well in her basement. She also apologized to her Haitian neighbors.” Justin Baragona posted to X with a link to a story in The Wall Street Journal.


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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 100 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

And here we are, over a week after the debate. They're still harping on Haitian immigrants in 1 town, while Harris is blazing up the campaign trail, yet polls are still concerningly close.

This is how scary this election is becoming

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I can’t believe how fucking racist this country is. 20 years ago if a candidate did this, they’d be given the kiss of death by the media and made to drop out.

Hell Howard Dean lost because he screamed funny. This is abhorrent.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 32 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As I recall, in terms of the electoral college, neither Biden nor Harris have, at any point, been projected to beat Trump. It's not "becoming" scary, it's been scary for quite some time.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

There's no one single model doing projections.

Five Thirty Eight's, which is one prominent one, has favored Harris somewhat for a while.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

Harris wins 64 times out of 100

in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election.

Trump wins 36 times out of 100.

There is a less than 1-in-100 chance of no Electoral College winner.

Nate Silver -- who started Five Thirty Eight and is now off doing his own thing and runs a fork of the model that Five Thirty Eight used to run -- had them, last I looked, had Harris and Trump at about about even chances.

Both Silver's model and Five Thirty Eight's model agreed that the debate improved Harris's chances.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Five-thirty-eight is a joke. Who did Five-thirty-eight project to win in 2016? Yeah.
Who did professor Allan Lichtman predict to win in 2016? The winner! He uses a strange science technique that have retrospectively lined up with presidential winners since 1860. He has an impressive tract record of ten successful predictions - note he predicted Gore in 2000 but there is very persuasive evidence that Gore actually did win had the vote counts been honestly counted. Hence the Brooks Brothers riot that threw the election to the Supreme Court.
Republicans are now positioning for that to happen again in 2024.

[–] SeriousMite@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Important to note that Nate Silver works for Peter Theil, who has donated heavily to Trump pacs, and is responsible for giving us JD Vance.

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a source on Silver working for Thiel?

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Interesting.

Tl;Dr: Nate Silver is an "advisor" to Polymarket, a gambling platform based on real world events. Peter Thiel is an investor for Polymarket.

It seems like a stretch to say that "Nate Silver works for Thiel," but it's pretty sad to see Nate Silver working for a likely illegal crypto scam.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

It seems like a stretch to say that "Nate Silver works for Thiel."

Nate Silver is a paid advisor to a company that Peter Thiel runs, it's not a stretch at all, wake up.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 hours ago

Also a great example of how fact checking fascists is completely ineffective. Platforming a fascist via a debate does nothing other than legitimize their viewpoints.