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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I work at a company that has big offices in Japan and the US (as well as many other places) and it’s pretty interesting to see the contrasts in living standards and expectations up close.

On the one hand, when coworkers visit from Japan they are disgusted by how dirty, unsafe, and uncourteous the US is by comparison. They complain endlessly about the low quality standards of the food. I picture myself having to pick worms and hair out of everything and that’s what things seem like from their perspective.

But then some of them move to the US because they can’t handle the stuffy, oppressive attitude in Japan. Everything is about what you can’t do or aren’t supposed to do. One guy said he was so relieved to go to the US where people know how to say “we can find a way to do that.”

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

From your description alone, knowing only the US and not Japan, it sounds like Europe is the middle ground. Not as free, but less socially oppressive. I mean, in Japan it's mean to walk while you eat.... how deep is the interference running?

Edit: Am from Europe, sorry should have added this.

[–] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Europe's pretty free mate. Especially when you get cancer. You get to keep your house!

[–] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

I know lots of people who have had cancer and no ones lost their house.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There are two kinds of freedom, negative and positive liberty. US has a lot of negative liberties, they dictate little in what you can or cannot do, but is lacking in positive liberty, they don't support you very well to do what you want to do.

While Europe might have less negative liberty, their generally better social welfare system grants people more positive freedom.

[–] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

Yes the Bill of Rights are specifically what the government can not do to / take away from you. They are individual rights and liberties.