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i learned recently that this is a false premise; the frogs will get out when the water gets too warm for them. which imo makes its proliferation even more apt; it makes sense that they would, but we've so used to the narrative that we keep this factoid going without questioning it.
I pointed this our recently in another thread and people got real bent out of shape about it, it was weird.
Woah buddy, no need to get all political.
My bad.
People don't like the things they believe to be challenged, and many people fail to recognize what is a belief and what is a fact.
It's the problem with knowing enough to not know how little you actually do (know).
Am I seeing shapeism here? Why do you think you can dictate the shape people choose for themselves?
hmmm, like they don't do a Hollywood fall, but they do often just drop. sack of potatoes style. there's a lot of stuff in you that could make you stop standing if it got shot. it's not guaranteed, but depending on caliber, it can be quite likely that they will fall. just straight down or in the direction of their existing momentum usually.
I've heard high velocity rounds (such as rifle rounds) send a kind of shockwave through your body. Dunno if it's true or not.
oh it's very true! generally when a bullet enters the body the damage it does spreads out like a cone from entrance to exit as more displaced material is accelerated and the shockwave travels outward. that's why the exit wound is generally many times larger than the entrance wound. a large enough round at a high enough velocity will start taking chunks out of people. that's why many were concerned the m16 wouldn't have enough stopping power when it was first being brought to the battlefield, it used a smaller round than the ak-47. it's not about the size of the bullet, it's about the amount of energy it can impart into the target. a heavier, wider round will create a much larger wound channel. the difference in damage done is much greater than the difference in the size of the bullet.
there are also a variety of specific types of bullets that can affect the wound created and the damage done internally. for example, in smaller, slower rounds that might struggle to create this expanding wound channel effect, they might use hollow point bullets. bullets that are made to expand and/or break apart after impact. creating a larger wound and transferring the energy of the round into the target's organs better.
generally, you can expect that anyone using guns designed to kill humans to be able to damage an area at least 4 times the size of the bullet with every shot. often more, sometimes less. so when you think about getting shot and whether it will hit your internal organs imagine the bullets are more like softballs. because that's the size of the exit wound they'll create. that is why i say it's generally unlikely that you won't fall when shot with intent to kill. i do specifically man using a weapon of war, not a .22 backpack rifle. honestly, people get shot with small caliber handguns often enough. they probably usually don't need to fall over. might feel like it though. i know i tend to sit down when I'm hurt badly enough.
uhh... I'm not a gun nut btw. i generally support sensible gun control and would even like to see something like Australia's method thought about for here (America). I'm just autistic and blame mythbusters for sending me down that rabbit hole when i was younger.
can you explain the difference between all of these?
lmao, even if i thought i could it's too low res to read.
I've seen enough combat footage of real people dying to real bullets to know that they do just drop down.
I don't think you realize what it feels like to get shot. I can promise you don't fall because "I'm supposed to fall! That's what happens in the movies!" You don't even realize you're shot for many seconds or even a full minute or more afterwards. So your theory holds no water.
All you realize is blinding pain. You literally don't even register the impact until you're already on the ground.
Yeah, even I know when to get out of the Jacuzzi
i think its a good way to illustrate how 'they' change things for the worse incrementally so we get used to it. and not much else, it does its job.
not only that imo, with this extra layer it serves to illustrate how the complacency is not innate. everybody has a breaking point, but we have been told that we will just take it if it is gradual enough.
They waited too long and the water has gone down too far and they can't escape
no, the frog explicitly dies having not noticed.