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The photo is a 1974 photo of Leslie Feinberg, from the FBI file on hir. I've written a piece on my interpretation of Transgender Warriors and Trans Liberation, but I don't think it's quite polished enough, so I'll post it later. Instead, I'll go over hir FBI file: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/dc-metro/rg-065/6282555/Batch0010/6282555_100-HQ-480756.PDF.

The FBI thought Feinberg could be violating the Communist Control Act, advocating the overthrow of the government, and engaging in rebellion. Needless to say, a hero to all of us. Feinberg was a member of the Workers World Party (the party still exists, but more notably PSL split from it), which apparently wasn't openly advocating for the overthrow of the U.S, they just think it's inevitable.

My favorite line? "captioned subject is believed to be a white female, who became male through some kind of sex change operation, and is possibly homosexual". Some interesting language choice, and it's an interesting snapshot into the evolution of Leslie's identity.

The FBI found Leslie's place of birth and birthdate from public school records. It's a bit of an interesting look into all of the many places the FBI can get their information, along with how information like that was so much more patchwork before the digital age.

"Interview of subject is not being recommended because of the questionable nature of his sexuality". Hmm, interesting.

It's interesting how their investigation spanned multiple cities, from Kansas City to NYC to Bufffalo to Boston. It probably involved quite a few officers, though I'm sure it wasn't the main focus for all of them.

There's some interesting mention about changes in Leslie's gender identity. Born a girl, for a time wearing a beard and mustache, then going back to "she". I'm sure we all know, Feinberg's gender didn't stop evolving there.

"Subject reportedly contributes all extra money to WWP", Leslie definitely was dedicated to the cause. Leslie doesn't attend NYC WWP meetings, but the FBI doesn't mention why.

The FBI isn't immune to typoes, Leslie did some "criminal terspass" that garnered some attention.They wasted some time checking if Leslie was in Boston, but verified where Leslie in NYC lived by pretending to be a part of the Voter Registration Commission.

There's a whole 43 pages of documents, all just from 1974-75. There's plenty of interesting tidbits in there, so maybe check it out.


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[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

thinking about puberty (not sad though)You know, I wonder how cis people actually process puberty.

I feel like I remember most adults/teens telling me it's rough/hard, but like, idk. I imagine they're more or less happy with the result. Obviously I can't compare it to my second puberty that much but like, I'm stoked to get my woman body. I know they don't have gender dysphoria/euphoria the same way trans people do but like, its got to be a little exciting to get your adult body that matches what you want. The only thing I can think is just like, being a kid in general is hard sometimes? Other kids can be mean?

spoiler talking about my own puberty, voice dysphoria (not sad about it rn) I don't think my first was as traumatizing, at the time, as a lot of other trans people's. I do remember hating my voice changing, and that hatred has carried through to present day. Now I have an answer for why, but a cis person wouldn't experience that. And even though I'm trans, and had some envy at the time, I think first puberty was more or less fine for me at the time? Maybe I've blocked out feelings but I think I was very blob-no-thoughts at that age, everything was more or less fine. My issues with puberty have come on much more recently, and I'm guessing cis people don't experience that either. :::

The conclusion here is I don't understand the cis, and who better to ask about cis issues then a bunch of trans people.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think cis people dislike puberty because of what they are becoming (although, a lot of women probably just wish they didn't have periods).

The process of puberty is difficult and involuntary. Male puberty includes acne, awkward hair growth, height changes, voice cracking, random boners, burgeoning sexuality, among other things. Couple this with the school environment, where anything is enough to get you made fun of, and you've got a powder keg of emotions ready to ignite.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

Yea, I see what you mean. I was very alone for a lot of that time, so maybe most people deal with more of that stuff, socially, then I did.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

With puberty I was like “wow I’m hot and strong now! But also I’m gonna have to grow hair I don’t like and this horny feeling sucks, and I have no feelings anymore unless I’m completely overwhelmed, and my feet are inconveniently large, and I don’t want to be a man.” Don’t have a lot of dysphoria, but I think the benefits of hrt may outweigh the costs?

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

pubertyI think for cis people they just view it as a neccessary, normal, difficult part of their lives. "its got to be a little exciting to get your adult body that matches what you want." Nah not really because A) most cis people do not get exactly the body they want from it B) it's just expected for them. No euphoria really 'cause everything already matches. Not that the cis never get it, but gender euphoria of such intensity is one of the small beauties of beinf trans.

spoiler voice, cw mild brainworms Honestly if it was fine for you then you've sideswiped a lot of stress and suffering. I can remember worrying that testosterone was gonna "ruin me", which no but I was on fourchan at the time, y'know. So that's probably lucky for you in a way. ::: The cis are strange and inscrutable creatures :3

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No euphoria really 'cause everything already matches

Idk I knew a lot of boys who were super excited to grow facial and pubic hair lol it was kind of a competition to see who would do it first.

Also, a lot of boys get excited that it will be a lot easier to build muscle. That's why so many boys get into lifting around that age

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not that the cis never get it,

You might be right, depends on the crop ig. I mostly remember shitty boys bullying eachother over not having beards or being ripped tbh. If a teenage cisgender boy ever felt positive feelings it's news to me.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If a teenage cisgender boy ever felt positive feelings it's news to me.

Lmao you have a point

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Ngl it would be such a better world if cis people were just enthused about the changes they were undergoing... a lot if the time it's also treated as weird or scary though, there's a huge lack of education, there are competitive and judgemental attitudes, really lame shit. Cis L haram

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

There's a similar competition for girls lol, my ex told me their best friend got pissed at them for getting their period first

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

spoilerHmm, that all makes a lot of sense to me. Especially the changes just being expected, maybe taking it a bit for granted.

I know I did. Especially given that I wouldn't have gotten blockers, I'm very grateful my issues didn't start until maybe 16~? Which was still mostly envy, idk. I honestly can't imagine how bad that fear would be if you haven't started puberty yet. Having 4chan talk you through puberty sounds terrible.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

spoilerYeah fr, cis people do not really think of it as a controllable process I think. We are extremely powerful in part for doing something about it.

I'm grateful for that for you too, although envy isn't super pleasant either.

Having 4chan talk you through puberty sounds terrible.

yea tripcodes would say some shit about collarbones or whatever and I'd be breaking out a measuring tape to find out if Mrs Brainworms thinks I'm a Real® Woman™ or whatever, god that shit was fucked. Some loser guy on the 'chan described my figure as "boyish" and it fucked me up for days.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

spoilerNo, it really wasn't pleasant, I struggled a lot at that point. But it was after changes had happened, if that makes sense.

That sounds really fucked. And this was before/early puberty? Dear god.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

spoilerYes that does make sense meow-hug

It was super fucked!!! Yeah I was like 14 when I got on fourchannel or something, extremely unhealthy.

[–] naom3@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

brainworms

Honestly if it was fine for you then you've sideswiped a lot of stress and suffering. I can remember worrying that testosterone was gonna "ruin me"

yea