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What is Neurodivergence?

It's ADHD, Autism, OCD, schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, bi-polar, aspd, etc etc etc etc

“neurologically atypical patterns of thought or behavior”

So, it’s very broad, if you feel like it describes you then it does as far as we're concerned


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2.) always assume good faith when dealing with a fellow nd comrade especially due to lack of social awareness being a common symptom of neurodivergence

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3.) no talking over nd comrades about things you haven't personally experienced as a neurotypical chapo, you will be purged. If you're ND it is absolutely fine to give your own perspective if it conflicts with another's, but do so with empathy and the intention to learn about each other, not prove who's experience is valid. Appeal process is like appealing in user union but you dm the nd comrade you talked over with your appeal (so make it a good one) and then dm the mods with screenshot proof that you resolved it. fake screenies will get you banned from the site, we will confirm with the comrade you dm'd.

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I don't like being referred to as a "person with autism". I can't just set it down, it's not something I can remove. It is fundamental to the way I interact with the world, right down to how stim enters my brain. If my brain has types of inputs no allistic person can even approach, and methods of processing inherently different, it is an existence no allistic person can reach. There is no version of me that is not autistic.

A "cure" is the same as shooting me and replacing me with someone else.

The type of person I am is autistic. I am autistic.

I know it is a big trend in leftist spaces to use person first language, but in many situations that just sounds like eugenics to me. Personhood is not some distinct universal experience. There is no “ideal human mind” floating out there in the aether for them to recognize in me.

I get that person first language helps some people recognize that thoughts happen behind my eyes, but if the only way they can do that is by imagining I’m them, I don’t care.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Ask them if they'd call a black person a "person with blackness"

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Is that not what “person of color” is trying to do?

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not really, it's a more accurate and meaningful term to replace "minority", especially since white minorities in non-white regions can still have white privilege

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

I prefer non-White because that's what the category is really about, defining people in opposition to the political racial ideology of Whiteness

[–] RosethornRanger@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have seen people in the comments on some platforms argue for that when I mention stuff like this, its a time

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think “black person” is more or less equivalent to “autistic person/person with autism”.

CW racist languageWhat OP is asking would be closer to calling someone “a black”, which sounds offensive for obvious reasons - it reduces personhood and emphasizes their difference, one that historically was used to discriminate

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Only because in that case the word was used to persecute. Same how both "A latino(a)" and "a latino person" are fine, but "a hispanic" is really bad

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

specifically "a hispanic" is bad because it's wrong linguistically? Was it used historically (or now) to be racist? I looked up historical use real quick and only found stuff about adding "Hispanic" as a choice in the 70s. What did i miss?

[–] codapine@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I too am interested to know this. I don't want people to think I'm assuming all people from Latin America as being Mexican, so when I'm unsure where exactly they are from I have used 'is Hispanic' in the past.

I'm aware of the S word slur that likely derives from this. Is this why Hispanic is bad? What word to describe the Latin American or Spanish cultures would be better advised?

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Only because "blackness" isn't really a typical (or technically appropriate) word? I've heard "people with darker skin" or equivalent and it seems to have been fine, in appropriate contexts.

[–] Jelamzer@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People with darker skin sounds weird as fuck and is kinda meaningless phrase

"Dark skinned people" is better

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As a cracker, I'm in no position to assert what is or isn't better. But as I say, I've heard the phrase/equivalent used many times by many a person and it's been fine.