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[–] projectd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Private jets are bad, agreed... How about making the change to veganism and also campaigning about private jets at the same time? Picking a different item on a menu is all it takes for a people in a lot of places and it's t really the type of problem that humanity should be throwing everything at.

[–] Erk@cdda.social 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Speaking as someone who is plant based, it's a false dichotomy anyway. It's not "go vegan or eat lots of meat". People who don't share the vegan philosophy could just eat very little meat and make a huge difference to the planet, just like how I bike or walk to work but once in a while I drive.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, and furthermore, what types of meat you eat make an even greater difference. The worst offender is factory farmed beef, which produces close to a tenfold more emissions per protein amount than chicken, pork or fish.

One thing that surprised me when looking into this a few years ago is that chicken is a surprisingly carbon-light source of protein (note, emissions/grams of protein, not emissions/calorie) in the northern hemisphere.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is why the purist arguments and preaching are incredibly counterproductive. We'd see a much larger reduction in emissions if everyone who ate a ton of beef ate chicken instead, compared to if everyone who ate chicken went vegan. This study even suggests you can have vegan diets which are worse for the environment than just having chicken.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm all for doing all of it. I am just making a statement that I am tired of it all being put on those of us with the least overall impact for the extensive amount of cooperative effort it takes.

[–] projectd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I hear you! It's frustrating how much is out of our control. I find some people neglect to do what they can because some people, corporations or countries are a larger problem - sorry for mistakenly lumping you in with them!