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[–] agoseris@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds about right, though I'm not sure if I agree with the direct comparison of calories. Milk probably isn't going to be a major source of a person's calories (at least it wasn't a major source of calories for me before I went vegan), and it seems unlikely that someone will drink 4 cups of almond milk to replace each cup of dairy milk they would have drank in order to maintain the same calorie intake from milk. Comparing by volume produced makes more sense to me, since someone switching milks seems more likely to use them as a 1 to 1 replacement volume wise, e.g. someone adding 1 cup of almond milk to cereal vs. adding 1 cup of dairy to cereal.

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I dont think it is fair to discard the value of calories in a discussion of efficiency in food production.

Milk is a staple of many American diets, maybe as a result of the Got Milk Yada Yada, my point being drinking a cup of milk is going to fill you up with x calories, weather you would have replaced it with 4 cups of almond milk or not.

If you decided not to drink cow milk, and only had 30 calories from the single cup of almond milk you drank, the 90 calories you are missing will be made up elsewhere in your diet, potentially in a more inefficient replacement food.

Sure, food scarcity is not the tightest conversation in America due to the prevalence of our high calorie diets, but in terms of human dietary habits as a whole, calorie density, difficulty of obtaining, and difficulty in distribution are desperate conversations that lives depend on.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Milk is a staple of many American diets

North America systemically over-consumes, hence its obesity crisis.

the 90 calories you are missing will be made up elsewhere in your diet

this doesn't accurately represent a person's relationship with food

[–] nac82@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are factually incorrect on point 2 and point 1 was already addressed in my comment.

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are factually incorrect on point 2

So I can eat 2000 calories in pure sugar and feel full for the whole day?

point 1 was already addressed in my comment

You said it didn't matter in America but that it does matter globally, but we're not talking about globally, because we're talking about how milk forms part of the typical American diet.

That's not addressing anything.