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[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but if not, it's exactly the opposite. Racists who believe bullshit around border stuff are already voting for Trump because they know he's the most racist "mass deportation" guy.

If she wants the (still racist, maybe less vehemently) suburban liberals they have to totally backtrack on whatever the fuck Biden's old, dumb ass was doing, and convince those racists, using the same rhetoric they did for... decades, that the Republicans are and have been lying about border crossing numbers, they're lying about "migrant crime", this is all a far right wing, racist, repeatedly used strategy to drum up fears and votes based on those fears.

That's always been the strategy until Biden, I dunno I guess based on the horrible advice of his strategists?, pulled a 180 "oh, we'll just out racist the racists!" And yes it will work to make Americans, especially whites, more racist. But it's not gonna get votes. And the hypocrisy point doesn't work either because if the point is "we caved to Trump and he didn't take the bait! See he doesn't care!" you've just effectively conceded that Trump was correct in 2016-now that Mexicans are rapists, murderers, etc. and we do need to mass deport immigrants. But the answer to that "problem" if you become convinced it's true is still Trump. No matter what, if they go right wing, Trump is always there to be the better answer. It never works even from an electoral standpoint. Just makes everything worse.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah the dems' value proposition is that they do the same things as republicans but "competent" and with less gauche rhetoric.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, most prominent memory of that is John Kerry's "we'll do the Iraq war but better". As an electoral strategy, it seems to maybe make a small difference, and isn't the sort of thing they should be relying on, but that's assuming that dems care about winning more than they care about being racist.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Obama's smart vs dumb wars, fuck

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but if not, it's exactly the opposite. Racists who believe bullshit around border stuff are already voting for Trump because they know he's the most racist "mass deportation" guy.

Lib and sucdem parties all over the imperial core are doing the exact same thing. I fimrly believe they do not do this for the vote. This is climate fascism. These politicians know what is coming and they know they will not enact policies that could mitigate the havoc that is already wreaked upon tropical regions. So what they do instead is militarizing the borders in the Southern US and the Mediterranean further and further to keep out the millions of people that will soon live in areas that just aren't habitable anymore.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

I fimrly believe they do not do this for the vote. This is climate fascism

100-com this right here.