this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2024
1096 points (89.3% liked)

Political Memes

5428 readers
2444 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was the French Revolution not violence against monarchism? The Haitain Revolution not against Slavery and Colonialism? The Russian Revolution not against Tsarism? The Cuban Revolution not against Fascism?

[–] tararity@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While people come up with post-hoc justifications for Wars all the time that relates to philosophical ideas, most of the time it is originally waged purly for economic reasons.

The French monarchy and the Russian Tsars were failing to feed their people so those people fought back. The philosophical ideas that the preceding leaders had about how to better distribute the food after the fact is another discussion, but make no mistake, the war was waged simply to get people fed by any means. There was by no means a uniformity of of thought among revolutionaries, but the victor writes history and creates a new myth to establish the following Society upon.

Something something material conditions.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

While people come up with post-hoc justifications for Wars all the time that relates to philosophical ideas, most of the time it is originally waged purly for economic reasons.

100% correct, and I think I see the source of confusion. When people say they are fighting against Imperialism, they are referring to economic reasons, not philosophical ones. Society is driven by material conditions, not great people and ideas.