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[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (8 children)

What's the consensus on homeschooling from lemmy users?

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've got a sister and a sister in law who both homeschool their 4 children each. Those kids don't know how to read. It makes me pretty sick.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

That's... Sad. My kindergartner knows how to read already.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Good if you're actually able to do it properly, but there's a lot of cases where the parents really shouldn't be doing it.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Would be great if home schooling had some laws around not teaching your kids to be christofascist terrorists

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Or even just some laws that require you to prove you have a lesson plan at all

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fine if you're not a lazy, racist idiot who's actually just scared their children might become friends with black kids and otherwise shouldn't have passed sixth grade themselves.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Like I posted above, the biggest issue with home schooling. Is it almost always is used to brainwash the children towards extremism.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Given how difficult it can be for a trained teacher to successfully manage lesson plans and teach one or two subjects, it's not hard to see why homeschooling is a disaster for a lot of kids who wind up being taught by a single parent with minimal to no education credentials.

Best-case scenario I've seen is that the students wind up pretty un-rounded, and wind up excelling in one or two subjects, while neglecting basically anything else. It makes sense from the perspective of the parent as well. That might be the subject you're most familiar with, and therefore can, even unintentionally, give it the most attention. Another aspect is wanting your kid to succeed, and if you see them excelling in a subject and doing poorly in another, there's a tendency to just keep focusing on that since they're doing so well on it, rather than "wasting time" on other subjects they're not excelling in.

Only 2 people I've ever known have managed to be what I'd consider "successful" after homeschooling. Both went to the same engineering school that I did, and did extremely well overall. However, they suffered many of the same issues in terms of over-specialization, which becomes really apparent when you talk with them for an extended period of time. Usually they also tend to be incredibly socially inept, but fortunately for these guys their parents gave them a ton of opportunities for socialization with clubs and social hobbies, so that wasn't as apparent, but still something that a lot of homeschool students miss out on.

Realistically, I think the only way you could feasibly manage a truly quality homeschool education is with both parents having an in-depth education of 2-3 subjects (like 5-6 years minimum), in addition to at least some formal educational training. Then, bringing in home tutors for the subjects they likely won't be able to cover nearly as well to supplement them. Finally, having them enrolled in an absurd amount of sports/clubs/hobbies to make up for the 6 hours of social contact with other kids they're missing out on.

With that being said, it's a fuckton more effort and money than almost anyone is going to actually put into a homeschool education, and 98% of the time it's going to be a stay at home parent with minimal to no credentials buying lesson plans off the internet, brushing up on them the night before, and likely giving lackluster instruction on most subjects.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I mean you follow a testing module to ensure subject matter is satisfactory. After 2nd grade I believe?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It can be great, but a lot of states have literally no standards for how it's done, and most (all?) of the rest have very weak standards. I'd be fine with it if there were real standards requiring parents to educate their kids and not brainwash them into being Nazis.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Washington state has yearly testing standards to ensure education is level with peers. I know a lot of people who's kids are homeschooled here who are constantly exceeding scores of their peers. One parent is a 6th grade teacher in public school, while homeschooling her own kids. But even those without credentials are having high scores. Having a community and peer to peer collaboration helps too.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I'm generally OK with it, except when these kinds of doofuses do it. At best they want children to be indoctrinated to their ideology, at worst they're abusing their children.