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Kyle Rittenhouse's sister Faith is seeking $3,000 on a crowdfunding website in a bid to prevent the eviction of herself and her mother Wendy from their home, citing her "brother's unwillingness to provide or contribute to our family."

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I would want anything to do with her either. It's not fully rational or fair but it's the way it is. Her position as his mom means she pretty much has to defend her son's multiple murder and there are 8 billion people on earth, I don't have to spend a minute with someone who would do that.

Plus if I was going to hire her I would wonder how much crap this is going to cost me. It's not a heavily populated area and the name is rare enough. At best she is going to be neutral at worst she is going to attract the kind of people I don't want around or infuriate other people.

I am a parent myself. If you don't like my kids I don't like you.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How do you feel about people who feel neutral about your kids?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Umm what does that even mean? How can anyone feel neutral to another human being? All I am picturing is you know someone exists but any amount of pain or pleasure they feel doesn't impact you. Like if you could push a magic button to make them happy you wouldn't bother since that would require effort and you are neutral.

I don't know any people who are wired this way.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Umm what does that even mean? How can anyone feel neutral to another human being?

I just meant indifferent really.

All I am picturing is you know someone exists but any amount of pain or pleasure they feel doesn’t impact you.

There are a lot of people that currently exist and are in pain but it has little to no impact on me even though providing help would require nothing more than some more time and manpower.

Like if you could push a magic button to make them happy you wouldn’t bother since that would require effort and you are neutral.

This, I think provides for an interesting thought-experiment. Do we know how long it takes to press a button? Is the button-press speed limited by the latency of the circuitry it's connected to? Exactly how many people are currently in pain? It's obviously lots but can we come up with a relatively specific number? With what frequency does the number of suffering people change?

Then there are also some questions with more relative ethical implications that might also be: How many hours a week should a person spend pressing this button? How many people should press this button? If all previously suffering people are getting their buttons pressed then how will we know when someone is happy and flourishing? Isn't suffering an implied opposite of flourishing? What other implications of the anti-suffering button are there?

I don't know the answer to these questions, but you have certainly given me lot's to ponder.

[edit][post] On further research I guess this sounds kind of like Negative Ultilitarianism which appears to be a subset of Utilitarianism.