echodot

joined 2 years ago
[–] echodot 0 points 14 hours ago

Because I've never seen anyone prove that large language models are anything other than very very complicated text prediction. I've never seen them do anything that requires original thought.

To borrow from the Bobbyverse book series, no self-driving car has ever worked out that the world is round, not due to lack of intelligence but simply due to lack of curiosity.

Without original thinking I can't see how it's going to invent revolutionary technologies and I've never seen anybody demonstrate that there is even the tiniest spec of original thought or imagination or inquisitiveness in these things.

[–] echodot 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes I know but what I'm saying is they're just repackaging something that openAI did, but you still need openAI making advances if you want R1 to ever get any brighter.

They aren't training on large data sets themselves, they are training on the output of AIs that are trained on large data sets.

[–] echodot 1 points 16 hours ago

I don't. But it's fun to laugh at you

[–] echodot 1 points 16 hours ago

Put it this way MTV used to be broadcast outside the US. Used to.

[–] echodot 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Right but my understanding is you still need Open AIs models in order to have something to distill from. So presumably you still need 500 trillion GPUs and 75% of the world's power generating capacity.

[–] echodot 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

No you are wrong. The USA doing things is not an excuse for China doing things it's just me calling out favoritism. In your comment you decided that the USA doing bad things is acceptable and the China doing bad things is not and that is mentally feeble.

If you don't want people to respond to you don't say ironically stupid things.

[–] echodot 0 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That's my point though the first steam-powered vehicles were obviously promising. But all large language models can do it parrot back at you what they already know which they got from humanity.

I thought AI was supposed to be super intelligent and was going to invent teleporters, and make us all immortal and stuff. Humans don't know how to do those things so how can a parrot work it out?

[–] echodot 9 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yes but what's a few overthrown democratically elected governments between vassal states?

[–] echodot 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

More so than the United States with the CIA are you serious?

If you went around the world and asked people who they trust more, the US, China, or Russia they would tell you they're all exactly the same.

[–] echodot 3 points 17 hours ago

It's also a bizarre take anyway.

If this is some kind of Chinese plot to take down the AI companies it's a bit of a weird one. Since in order to keep the ruse going they would have to subsidize everybody's AI usage essentially for the rest of time.

[–] echodot 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I am personally of the opinion that IKEA sells furniture as a loss leader, and their real business is Swedish meatballs.

[–] echodot -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (9 children)

Snake oil will be snake oil even in 100 years. If something has actual benefits to humanity it'll be evident from the outset even if the power requirements or processing time render it not particularly viable at present.

Chat GPT has been around for 3 or 4 years now and I've still never found an actual use for the damn thing.

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