They created that fog of war though. Israelis would not have made any blue on blue attacks without the attack happening. We could argue all day if Hamas is directly or indirectly to blame for some of the killings, but none of them would have happened at all without the attack. It is not as if the Israelis recognised Hamas was attacking and they used it as an opportunity to kill a few more of their own is it?
Syldon
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I never once stated or inferred this was totally the fault of Hamas. Hamas are solely responsible for the events of that day where many were massacred.
There is guilt all around over other events that has happened over the period since the Israelis were planted on the land after the war. I would argue more on the Israeli than the Palestinian side. But picking sides is not going to resolve the issues. At some point you have to bury the hatchet and move. While there are groups that deliberately want to antagonise the situation that will not happen.
Netanyahu was under pressure to move away from his extreme right wing policies from groups in Israel. Part of the reasoning Hamas has done this is to stop that peace process gaining traction. My position is that the US should stop funding Israel while they are running an apartheid state. It is difficult to throw all the blame at Israel when you have two factions intent on the genocide of all Israelis. Until there is a change in the positions they are hanging onto, then it will not be resolved.
Precisely, there is no innocent party in this conflict.
No I am saying Hamas committed an atrocity. There is no escaping that. Throwing in spurious figures regarding Israeli competence does not alleviate that.
There are many wrong in this. It is hard to find any rights at all from any side. Ignoring all the wrongs that have been committed by both sides will not solve the issue. Parties need to recognise that shit is being, and has been done. It should not be buried with BS in a cheap effort to dilute responsibility.
yes I agree, and I sincerely there is an account after this.
Fighting an occupier is allowed by international law,
Slaughtering civilians is not acceptable under international law. The rest is just propaganda until you can produce data to back it up. Just stating that Israel committed blue on blue attacks is not really good enough. Even then the scale of the attacks by Hamas will have sent Israeli defence systems into turmoil. Getting confused and hitting a wrong target is pathetic, it is not a criminal offence if it is done in a national defence situation.
I have criticised Israel for many years. How they treat Palestinians is barbaric. How the west has supported them in doing this is also barbaric. But what happened on that day was the fault of Hamas, there is no excuses.
Fair game (pun not intended). He has been stupid and should go just for that.
Those civilians would not have died if Hamas had not attacked civilian areas. The whole reason there were any casualties is because Hamas attacked.
Doesn't change the fact they murdered people deliberately.
I am actually just getting a grip on your meaning now. It has taken me this long because it is so ridiculous.
You actually think that confusing antisemitic and antizionist statement is worthy of a two month ban. I said it is considered antisemitic because it involves people suggesting killing all Jews between two points in Palestine/Israel that this is a mistake that is worthy of a two month ban.
You sir are a clown.
I wont respond to your baiting over the war comment. My point was that many suffered during the war. Not only Jews which was 6m, 50m others died, many more injured. There is no higher ground on who suffered the most. It is a pathetic stance to take.
IDF should be held to account also. I never once made excuses for the crimes of others. You want a cheap get out to deflect blame. I don't accept that.