PZK

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[–] PZK@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Good read. But I don't necessarily agree with the correlation of admiring defeat as a direct connection to Christianity, but rather the way the west is conditioned to find a way to win. If some Socialist movement failed, it is glorified in its failure because the hyper competitive West must extract some kind of victory. To utterly lose is to potentially admit eternal defeat and abandon a path as impossible, so already downtrodden Western leftists are keen to extract a moral victory or sense of heroic martyrdom.

Also much of what would account for leftist celebration of these failures, is actually Liberals co-opting historic evidence. For example I interpret the celebration of non-violent means that have yet to produce any revolution as simply Liberalism. If one would cheer on the status quo while dreaming of a slightly more perfect utopia, then they are going to romanticize the people that fought for a better future, only to be "cut down by reality". Liberals celebrate these people for their ideas but not their actions, unless of course their actions accounted for nothing. If they ennoble a failed leader or idea, it is because they want to celebrate the status quo crushing those who would challenge it, but admire their "heart being in the right place". Or Liberals interpret the fallen hero or movement's actions as a means for reinforcing the challenged status quo, as opposed to changing it.

It does explain some level of psychological copium that is used by Western leftists to glorify defeat, but I don't think it is the driving force behind the defeat itself. I would presume the reason Socialism doesn't get off the ground in the West is the lack of material challenge that it's populations experience by benefiting from their imperialism. No collectives form from a need for survival unlike the East and Global South that are subjected to imperialism and poverty. For these regions, Socalism is a source of strength. While for the West, Socialism is an aesthetic or higher moral purity, which is the reason it never goes anywhere. It isn't seen through the lens of survival, but often just contrarian rejection or individualistic rebellion of a system that isn't serving that persons best interests.

Though I absolutely agree with your sentiment that these ineffective tactics are hammered into children at a young age to be admired for their virtue and lack of results. But I would regard that as institutions of capital protecting themselves from any future overthrow, not because "it was what Jesus would do".

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"...stop politicizing an issue troubling to many, myself included."

Of all the crap I see and hear politicians do, seeing them whine about things being "political" is next level absurd. ITS YOUR FUCKING JOB TO BE POLITICAL.

It would be easy to denounce the individual after learning more about who he was, but this crocodile-tears approach tells me she knew who he was before (or doesn't care) and is just upset she got caught worshiping him. Here, I can write a better half-assed, passive voice coverup for her:

"I was not aware of the individual's past and it was not communicated to the other MP's. I do not condone or support the individual's past actions and I apologize for for my part in celebrating their presence. This was a mistake on the part of this governing body that should have been better communicated to us. I believe I speak for all MP's that we openly denounce Nazism, and the individuals responsible."

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This would create quite an evil mouse. I imagine the risk here is that the mouse would break free and run away with the ring and bring it to Sauron.

Edit: Someone already beat me to it.

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember, it will be the voter's fault in the end if the democratic leaders don't get what they want.

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Whatever is necessary to make it die.

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I fortunately don't have any of this. I do exercise regularly but I wonder how long it is before some chronic pain starts appearing.

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

chad =Assad

doomer =Zelensky

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Everything is political, not just when your views are challenged.

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I see what you mean. Fortunately the labor market in the US is very much in favor of workers at this point and barring a major depression, its probably going to be like that for many years because boomers are retiring and leaving faster than the Fed can try to squeeze the labor market into submission.

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Disagree. There is nothing that says someone needs to be subjected due to trans acceptance. I do not feel threatened by, or feel that my "privilege" is being attacked by the existence of trans people. They want to exist and be accepted and I don't see this as an assault on my existence. For the record am a cis lmayo male. I know I lose nothing by accepting trans people.

What you described is what they believe will happen. Their minds are always in a place of believing that someone needs to be losing.

As a tangent for the sake of example: I recall during the George Floyd protests that white people flooded gun stores to buy guns because they seriously thought that black people were going to come into their neighborhoods, drag them out of their houses and kill them. They think this because that is what they would do in their place. Its a silent admission of knowing they fuck minorities over and they have a right to be angry. They were scared of being casualties in a race uprising that they assume has been brewing because they know how they treat black people in America. They also assumed black people would just indiscriminately murder people because they see them as animals and not human beings. I was blind-sided by the entire white-panic mentality and one of my black friends had to explain to me why the lines were so frenzied and long at the sporting goods store.

The same goes for trans people and the gamer throwing a crybaby fit about being reminded that they exist and people respect them. They don't understand them, so they hate them, and assume they... or someone else is working to undermine their lives. It is a lot more premeditated and sinister than you think. They want these people to disappear. Trans people make them scared. They worry they will have to question their own identity or sexuality which their culture has told them to strictly adhere to and demonize deviants. It does not look like it in the video, but the gamer dude raging about pronouns is utterly terrified of them because he has been propagandized and programed to do so.

Its built on layers of punditry and propaganda that all feeds off of their basic human instinct of fear. Their reactions and solutions are reinforced by western civilization. They believe they would be undermined their privilege because that is what society teaches them, and not reality.

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I believe it simply comes from them believing that these people are destroying their country. They see trans acceptance as proof they are losing the culture war which they feel will have political consequences for them. It isn't going to affect them but they have been told it will by every pundit and cultural convention they are familiar with. At best they see it as strange and the ground is moving from beneath them. To put it more simply, its fear. They don't understand it so their reaction is to hate and destroy it because it signals societal change.

Everything is zero-sum game to them. If someone is getting more recognition and rights, they believe it means they themselves have less.

[–] PZK@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I have felt myself coming close many times. I still have normal relations with my parents but they don't know how thin the ice is.

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