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Suspected Israeli warplanes bombed Iran's embassy in Syria on Monday, a marked escalation in a war pitting Israel against its regional adversaries, and Tehran said the strike killed seven military advisers including three senior commanders.

Reuters reporters at the site in the Mezzeh district of Damascus saw emergency workers clambering atop rubble of a destroyed building inside the diplomatic compound, adjacent to the main embassy building. Emergency vehicles were parked outside. An Iranian flag hung from a pole by the debris.

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 132 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Okay, isn't bombing an embassy an absolutely insane escalation? Even throughout WW1, WW2, or any other war in the past century, no country was crazy enough to undermine the sanctity of diplomacy like this and antagonize everyone.

The only other time this has happened in history was when NATO bombed a Chinese embassy in Belgrade in 1999, and even here the US — the most war-mongering nation on the planet — apologized, said it was a mistake (though it definitely wasn't — it was removed from the list of prohibited targets beforehand and struck 3 separate times), and paid for it to be rebuilt. Israel is completely unhinged.

[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes. This is generally agreed upon as being a terminal escalation.

Attacking diplomatic missions very quickly turns into no diplomacy between the two countries. This doesn’t leave many options other than military actions on the table.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

Do you think there's much daily diplomacy between Israel and Iran/Syria?

[–] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 8 months ago

They're basically telling Iran to wage war on israel...

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay, isn't bombing an embassy an absolutely insane escalation?

Yep. There's literally two countries in the world who could get away with it without causing a major diplomatic crisis if not downright war: Israel and the US.

[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.id 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Meh, I bet if Russia bomb some random embassies in Ukraine there would not be additional war.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, the "not already at war" part was implied lol

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Or anyone else everyone is basically already at war with. E.g. if Ukraine were to destroy the Russian embassy in North Korea, nothing would escalate past where it already is.

[–] 4_degrees@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

The US has commissioned entire offices devoted to ensuring striking an embassy doesn't happen again. Millions are spent every year to update the (surprisingly ever-changing) locations of embassies around the world so they don't make the same mistake in the future. Whatever the thought process was that "allowed" a strike then has been eliminated and then some.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Little nuance here, Syria and Iran don't get along, and Israel doesn't have any particular problem with Syria, they have a problem with a nominally Syrian area controlled by an Iranian backed militia. Syria will do nothing, probably thinks this is funny. Iran might.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Reading the papers for years. You seem to think the Israelis were supplying Hezbollah in Syria and Lebanon, instead of Iran.

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Shit like this keeps happening and Iran just shows incredible amounts of restraint.

Meanwhile, the "only democracy in the Middle East" is allowed to act like a rabid dog.

[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 48 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Why is the Israel government putting their entire nation even more at risk than it already is? What is the end game here as surely the people living in Israel recognize escalation puts them at risk.

[–] smnwcj@fedia.io 28 points 8 months ago

They're confident in their backing and feel invincible. Lebanon, a small coastal neighbor with sites from ancient judea. Expanding into the territory is probably on their timeline.

[–] nihilvain@lemmy.ml 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israel is trying to create another six-day war. That's why they are trying to escalate it to neighboring countries. It's all a part of the Zionist land grab strategy. The current weakened state of Russia gives them an opportunity. Iran and Syria used to have a lot of military support from Russia. That may also be a reason for so much Israel receiving so much backing from the US.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

So the west supports bombing brown children to take some pressure off of white children.
That makes sense, unfortunately.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 8 months ago

Presumably, they want to drag USA into a broader regional war.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Its gonna be different when its not a people living in a concentration camp retaliating against Israel. This has the potential to escalate very quickly.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -3 points 8 months ago

Don't you think the entire point of Hamas' attack was to escalate the conflict?

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My friend's grandparents escaped the bombing by a hair. The building in front of them got bombed, they are safe. His family is in process of bringing family members back from Syria.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago
[–] blackfire@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So they aren't even going to say why they hit an embassy. Thats ballsy. Is this the last straw that starts the secret cogs turning to get rid of top leadership. If anytime to start it would be now to prevent further escalation.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They did it to try to broaden the conflict in hopes of drawing in direct military support from their western allies.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Skua@kbin.social -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How does that actually benefit Israel, though? The "war" against Hamas at the moment is so lopsided in Israel's favour that it seems ridiculous to even call it a war. A regional heavyweight like Iran could do some real damage, even if Israel's supporters all show up. I'm not seeing the argument for "anger a country with a fucktonne of missiles in order to get help winning a war we were already easily winning"

[–] reddit_sux@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 8 months ago

With the public support amongst allies waning, Israel might be trying to escalate the war so as to once again gain favour.

Tomorrow if Iran or Jordan attacks Israel even if provoked by it, public support might change in its favour.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 8 months ago

Right now Russia is tied up in Ukraine. For Israel, this is the perfect opportunity to get rid of Iran. Once the war in Ukraine ends, Israel will be in deep shit because Russia can provide support to Iran and other regional Israeli enemies. Furthermore, the Israeli economy has also been severely damaged by the emmigration that was triggered by the war. Their reputation as a Jewish safe haven is toast. Time is running out.

[–] tostos@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Bill Maher:What is your secret? Netanyahu:We have America

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It has ramped up those strikes in parallel with its campaign against Iran-backed Palestinian group Hamas, which ignited the Gaza war with an Oct. 7 attack on Israel that killed about 1,200 people and took 253 hostage, according to Israeli tallies.

No, Israel has had an active blockade on Gaza since 2007. A blockade is an act of war.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israel has maintained effective control over Gaza since their military occupation ended almost 20 years ago, and they have really been making the Palestinians suffer.

Based on these considerations, some experts have found that “siege” better describes the situation.

However, the Geneva Academy of International Humanitarian Law and Human Rights has said “the majority of international opinion” holds that Israel maintains effective control, even without armed forces present. While legal experts acknowledge that the lack of a military presence does not follow the “traditional approach” to analyzing effective control, they find that military presence is an “evidentiary test only.” They point to authorities such as the Israeli High Court, which have held that occupation status hinges on the exercise of effective control. They, therefore, find that technology has made it possible for Israel to use ongoing force to exercise effective control—imposing authority and preventing local authorities from exercising control—without a military presence.

Specifically, experts from the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory found “noting” positions held by the UN Security Council, UNGA, a 2014 declaration adopted by the Conference of High Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention, the ICRC, and “positions of previous commissions of inquiry,” that Israel has “control exercised over, inter alia, [Gaza’s] airspace and territorial waters, land crossings at the borders, supply of civilian infrastructure, including water and electricity, and key governmental functions such as the management of the Palestinian population registry.” They also point to “other forms of force, such as military incursions and firing missiles.”

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Even more detail. Thanks.