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Two 10-year-old students were arrested in connection with a gun sold at their elementary school in Florida, county officials confirmed.

A deputy's son "agreed to exchange a handgun, (later found to belong to his deceased father), for a sum of $300" back in February, the Hendry County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement.

The Country Oaks Elementary School was placed under lockdown Wednesday morning after the sheriff's office received a call about "a suspicious incident" on campus. Authorities discovered ammunition in the backpack of the boy who purchased the gun.

The gun was later found in his backyard under a shed, hidden with a 74-gram bag of marijuana, according to investigators.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago (10 children)

10-year-old students were arrested

Fuck me. We didn't used to arrest tiny children.

And when shit like this comes up, I'm screaming, "How did a 10-yo have access to a GUN!?" Arrest whoever fucked that up please.

There is no excuse. My kids are that age, and they won't touch a gun. Period. (Partly because I've taught them, but mostly because they have brains.)

I have a shitload of guns, and they're all in safes except a couple of black powder arms (which they couldn't arm and fire if their lives depended on it).

Everyone wants "common sense" gun laws? Most ideas are silly, ineffective or run afoul of the 2A (which the courts uphold, like it or not). I see nothing stopping us from draconian storage laws.

Make the laws, it's on the owners to abide. Make an exception for one gun out for home defense, which some caveats. Hell, owners don't even have to pay attention! But if a child lays hands on your gun, concrete and steel box for you.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Mostly because they have brains.

I'm fucking jealous. Don't get me wrong, my kids are bright, but my ten year old got expelled for taking a steak knife to school - something I'd never in a million years have suspected she'd do. But one of her friends thought it would be funny, and you know how you or I might joke about telling our boss to go fuck himself, but we'd never actually do it? My daughter knew better, but in that moment all she thought about was clowning around.

She is already the most independent, hardest working kid I've known. I raised her to be that way and I'm damn proud of her. Some day she's going to be a force to be reckoned with. It's just like most children she's a fucking idiot sometimes. It's not her fault. I was a fucking idiot when I was a kid too. And based on stories I've heard, so was my dad. And then you look at the science and it turns out nearly every kid is a fucking idiot because a child's brain isn't an adult brain. And for some reason us parents tend to be the last to know.

You and I feel similarly about what sane gun laws should be and I don't really look to argue about that, but damn as one parent to another every time I hear someone say their child would never do some stupid thing or another because they are smart or raised right, I just think to myself that person either hit the jackpot or they are naive about how kids' brains work. I've raised five kids. Every damn one of them has done at least one idiotic thing I never in a million years believed they would do.

So don't ever rely solely on your kids' intelligence or adherence to rules to keep them safe. You don't ever want their moment of idiocy to involve a firearm. Best of fortunes my friend - to you and your kids.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

but damn as one parent to another every time I hear someone say their child would never do some stupid thing or another because they are smart or raised right, I just think to myself that person either hit the jackpot or they are naive about how kids’ brains work.

It is simply an extension of their narcissism. They see their child as an extension of themselves (at least for now, the child will inevitably leave them when they see how toxic they are), and in their mind it isn't possible for them to do wrong.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Are you talking about me? That's one hell of a pile of assumptions if so.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

I mean I'll still shoot myself in the foot if I think it's hilarious.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The kid who bought it had almost 3oz of weed, 74g. Some weird shit is going on in that neighborhood wtf.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I grew up in a neighborhood like that. By 9 the older kids had us bringing “sunflowers” that my friend’s dad smoked for whatever reason, and we’d trade a pocket full of buds for snacks and pocket change. By 11 one of the older kids decided to make a coke can pipe and show us why the sunflowers were so great. We sold pills and weed for some older people not long after that, that is until we all inevitably ended up trying those pills and becoming addicted.

I remember one time, a walk that should have taken about 10 minutes ended up taking two hours or more because I couldn’t get my brother and our friend to move. They mixed Xanax and alcohol, I didn’t have the alcohol so I was able to drag them slowly up the road. Older folks were sitting on the porch shaking their heads at us. It was terribly obvious we were into something. I was about 12 when that happened.

Those two slept for more than a day. My dad said, “I’m telling you, they’re on drugs!” And my mom said, “how could they be on drugs? They’re just babies!”

I ended up getting arrested for pills in the 9th grade and put on probation. That turned me around for a while. It took a whole lot of bad shit before I finally got my life together, but I’m clean now. My brain developed on weed, alcohol, Xanax, and opiates.

What a world.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Congrats on being clean. Seriously.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hey, I appreciate that.

My brother did even better than me. He faced the threat of losing his wife who he had somehow managed to hide his addiction from for 5 years. She wasn’t having it. She told him to get clean or get lost.

He went to my mom’s, got in bed, faced the withdrawal with no assistance, left her place clean. He was immediately hounded by everyone offering him drugs or asking for drugs. He relapsed, went back to my mom’s place, went through the horror again, and then left for police academy.

His logic was, “not only am I the right kind of person for that job, but I dare anyone to offer me drugs when they know what my job is.”

He hasn’t looked back and he and his wife have been happily married for 14 years.

I actually required rehabilitation. I went through withdrawal intentionally one time and that was enough for me. Once I relapsed I just couldn’t do it again. I am in a permanent medication assisted program. I don’t like it, but I like it better than being a junkie on the outskirts of society, one bad moment away from being locked in a cage.

I wish I had his strength. I really do. He was always stronger than me though, physically, mentally, spiritually. I don’t do religion, but I wish I had that whole larger purpose thing going on.

For me, my purpose is simple. I have to guide my kids through this world better than my parents did. Not that I’m saying anything bad about my parents. They were a mess but they did the best they could with what they had.

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[–] vaseltarp@lemmy.basedcount.com 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

which they couldn’t arm and fire if their lives depended on it

Do not underestimate children.

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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And when shit like this comes up, I’m screaming, “How did a 10-yo have access to a GUN!?”

Hang around here long enough, and someone is bound to respond and try to defend it. Has happened to me multiple times. Apparently thinking that children shouldn't have access to firearms, period, is a controversial take in the US now.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The article says the gun belonged to his dead dad. It doesn't offer any evidence of when his dad died or how he came to be in possession,

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[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Even my home defense gun is in a biometric safe in my nightstand... Two of the others have trigger locks, and the other two are flintlocks

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hope those are some damned good trigger locks cause you can get past some with a hammer and screwdriver. My uncle lost his keys at some point and that was his solution.

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, it's certainly not as secure as a safe, but they're long arms, kept unloaded, with the ammo elsewhere

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Okay thats a tad bit more reasonable, still wouldnt trust em personally but if youre comfortable thats all that matters.

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[–] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Follow up story: 10 year olds' gun charges dropped after being sentenced to 55 years on the mara-juannas.

Oh thank God! I'm glad this dangerous substance was removed off the streets. Dozens of kids could have gotten high from that. /s

[–] babypigeon@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"The gun was later found in his backyard under a shed, hidden with a 74-gram bag of marijuana, according to investigators."

This whole story would a great opening to a film about a mob kingpin.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It’s honestly kind of sad. What 10 year old is buying guns and 74 fucking grams of weed?

[–] babypigeon@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I doubt he’ll get that far if he’s getting high at 10. Probably got a fucked up life

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

You don't buy a QP to get high. You buy it to sell.

[–] babypigeon@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

No doubt about the fucked up life. But he could have been selling vs consuming the product.

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Quick math 74 grams is 2.61 ounces which is like what I can get for a little over a 100 buck legally for meh shit. Primo it could be ~300-500 bucks worth in a legal market for perspective. Still a 10 year old should not have either in their possession

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You think this gun toting 10 year old don't have the primo shit??

[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How would he even know? Not like he has years of experience smoking the sticky icky as snoop say. Probably brick grass because the dealer knows he will get away will selling skunk weed to a 10 year old because he is a piece of shit for selling a 10 year old grass

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Probably been slanging since pre k tbh

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How did a 10 year old get $300, presumably in cash, and wtf was he going to do with it?!

That kid is gonna be an arms dealer.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Presumably from selling weed, he had 2.8oz, probably down from a quap or half p. Now, who fronted the kid to get his start is the real question.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Glad I can go across the street and buy weed legally at a store instead of getting it off some 10 year old with a gun because it’s still illegal.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lucky you. Kid doesn't wanna be some washed up 12yo's lick though, he needs to keep that pole on him so his opps don't catch him lacking! Understandable really.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

When you put it like that, it really does make sense. Small businesses are rough.

[–] 520@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Kid might simply be a mule for an adult buyer

[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

That’s something I hadn’t considered.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

There are some seriously fucked up parents on both sides of this transaction.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Floridaman's origin story.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Seriously! I was just thinking this was the most Florida headline I had heard this year.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Capitalism.

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