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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 202 points 7 months ago (7 children)

“I do not believe you can be born gay, and I do not believe homosexuality is right, though the law of this land has made it legal doesn’t mean it’s right,” Omooba wrote in the post. “I do believe that everyone sins and falls into temptation but it’s by the asking of forgiveness, repentance and the grace of God that we overcome and live how God ordained us to, which is that a man should leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and they shall become one flesh.”

Hmm, being homophobic and trying to have a career in theater. Thats a bold move, lets see how it pays off.

After hearing testimony in 2021 that Omooba had previously told her agents that she refused to play gay roles and had not bothered to read the script for the musical version of The Color Purple before accepting the role, an employment tribunal dismissed the actor’s religious discrimination claim, The Telegraph reported.

How can you not even read the script, the book its based on, or even at the least watch the Hollywood movie for a part you're trying to land in an acting performance?

“I have long forgiven all those who have sought to ruin my theatre career,” Omooba said in a statement following the ruling, “but the theatre world needs to be told, loud and clear, that canceling people for their Christian beliefs is illegal and wrong.”

Doesn't look like it turned out well for her.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 79 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As someone of color, I wonder if she would agree with the KKK discriminating against her, as they also consider themselves "Christians" spreading hate against people over things they do not control.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 41 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Yeap, a lot of slavery in America was perpetuated and validated by religious beliefs. Plantation owners believed that black people were cursed by the mark of ham, and thus were entitled by an act of God to enslave people.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Also, the Bible literally says: "but I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" 1 Timothy 2:12

So according to Christian dogma, SHE wouldn't be allowed to speak up against men, even if they are breaking some other rules, or try to teach the theatre world anything.

But it's a fair bet saying she's never opened a bible in her life, seeing she can't be bothered to even check out what the story is about when applying for roles.

Edit I realised this might read quite neutral, so I'm adding a fuck monotheism here just to make my view on the matter clear

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Eh, fuck all religions, not just monotheism. Religions are the worst, the amount of gods doesn't matter much. They're abusive and a detriment to society and progress.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

"Religion" is a every wide term though.

Dogma makes religions bad, but not all religions have dogma. Also when does faith become religion?

I get your point and I don't mind saying fuck all religions, but historically, polytheistic societies were more tolerant and usually pretty progressive. Much less (if any) dogma.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_monotheism#Violence_in_monotheism

The intolerance of narrow monotheism is written in letters of blood across the history of man from the time when first the tribes of Israel burst into the land of Canaan. The worshippers of the one jealous God are egged on to aggressive wars against people of alien [beliefs and cultures]. They invoke divine sanction for the cruelties inflicted on the conquered. The spirit of old Israel is inherited by Christianity and Islam, and it might not be unreasonable to suggest that it would have been better for Western civilization if Greece had moulded it on this question rather than Palestine.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeap, a lot of slavery in America was perpetuated and validated by religious beliefs

Goes even beyond that. Christianity - specifically, the New Testament verses that extolled the virtue of earthly toil on behalf of a secular lord in exchange for heavenly reward - was leveraged to convince the slaves themselves that their lot in life was justified. And for a great long period of time, it was successful. Even after the Confederacy's back was broken, mobilizing a population that had been wiped into submission for centuries was legitimately difficult. The Freedman's Bureau had a herculean effort put at its feet - to engage, re-educate, and empower millions of newly emancipated black men and women after a lifetime of debasement and degradation.

When you get into why Reconstruction failed, a big part of it was like looking at a spouse in an abusive relationship trying to get out from under a hyper-domineering partner and scaling that sociological problem up to the scale of whole cities and states.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

When you get into why Reconstruction failed, a big part of it was like looking at a spouse in an abusive relationship trying to get out from under a hyper-domineering partner and scaling that sociological problem up to the scale of whole cities and states.

I mean that, but also Andrew Johnson was a horrible person and even a worse president

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's simple. They're the wrong kind of Christian, and she's the right kind.

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[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Not just theater but musical theater the absolute stronghold of the LGBTQIA+... Yeah let's just talk openly about how I believe the vast majority of my coworkers and peers (who probably have backgrounds of religious trauma) are morally defunct and how their ability to feel loved and supported shouldn't be considered protected by society!

I want to grab her by the shoulders and say : For fuck sake honey. No one in your field wanting to touch you with a 9 ft pole isn't their fault. Having someone openly homophobic in a role where getting the gold star of casting has been for the past several years meant actually choosing someone who has actual experience in a similar identity to what they are potraying... It would be suicide for a production. People are going to look to a queer character to project themselves in those situations. Knowing you're just a bigot doing it for self agrandizement, accolades and cash is going to cause fucking boycotts from the very target audience of the show!

Spilling your theocratic dirty laundry on twatter because you can't hold it in can be a "career limiting move" and that's just normal in a pluralistic society.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (13 children)

Concrete proof that these people simply don't live in reality.

She thinks this is oppression.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I'm not sure that I agree that a queer character can only be played by a queer actor. That is called acting, the entire idea is to be someone you're not. If wr put that rule, then you can also say that straight characters cannot be played by queer or gay actors, not something we want, I'd say.

[–] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 months ago

I think its more a push toward making space for people who have marginalized identites to act. For a long time being openly queer was career suicide. So now that those stories are finally being told, people also want actors writers and producers of those identities involved in the process.

I think its less that straight actors cant play queer characters and more so that there are already plenty of roles for them. Maybe in a more equal future that pressure wont be there but right now it is.

I also think it depends on the role. A side character that happens to be gay? Yeah a straight actor can definetly play that. A lead role in a comming of age tale about discovering your gender identity? Probably best played by someone who has lived experience.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

That’s what I have trouble understanding - not even reading the script. Apparently she counted on her agents to “filter” things for her. Sounds highly unprofessional.

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Hmm, being homophobic and trying to have a career in theater. Thats a bold move, lets see how it pays off.

I laughed so loudly as this comment, my kids came to check in on me.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thats a bold move, lets see how it pays off.

The Daily Caller is always hiring.

How can you not even read the script, the book its based on, or even at the least watch the Hollywood movie for a part you’re trying to land in an acting performance?

More curious how she got hired on those terms. It seems like a simple line reading might have clued everyone involved in on what this story was about.

[–] Kindness@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

I've gotten too used to people intentionally misspelling a certain person's name. 'Omooba' threw me for a loop.

“I have long forgiven all those who have sought to ruin my theatre career,”

It would be beneficial for her to realise long and deep self-reflection is a virtue.

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you cant cancel people for their christian believe. But apparently you can cancel people for well everything else? Woman is mad.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 139 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Why is it always so hard to just leave people alone? How empty is her life that she actually went to court over this, spent money, time, and resources on hate.

BECAUSE SHES BEING VICTIMIZED. /s

[–] TheAuthor_13@lemm.ee 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because everyone is more important than anyone else & they all not only deserve to be heard, but if you disagree, you’re the asshole… it’s internal justification for ignorance

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not everyone deserves to be heard. That's ridiculous. Being heard means someone is listening. We don't have sufficient time or ears for everyone to be heard.

I agree that everyone deserves the chance to speak. But not everyone deserves a platform to be heard.

If someone wants to be a bigot, they can go shout about it in their backyard. But don't put the burden of hearing it on the rest of us. Ain't nobody got time for that.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think you two are on the same page, the words they emphasized point to a ‘this is from their point of view, look how selfish they are’ kinda message.

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[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I noticed this with the universe: somehow resources and time find their way into the pockets of those who use it cause harm on somebody else. But for us folks who wanna just put food on the table or pay debt we are always at the verge of drowning.

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 95 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You really shouldn't be starring in The Color Purple if you don't understand that discrimination is bad.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 64 points 7 months ago

Discrimination against ME is bad.

Discrimination against YOU GODLESS HEATHENS is good aktuly.

Besides, something something mumble mumble black liberation had its roots in religious movements something something mumble mumble don't ask what white slavery had its roots in though.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago

She is absolutely clueless and didn't even read the script before taking the part.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 63 points 7 months ago (15 children)

People really need to learn that "freedom of expression" is not the same as free from consequences. Otherwise, defamation wouldn't be a crime, for instance.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This case has nothing to do with freedom of speech. She was suing a private theater on the grounds of religious discrimination which is a law, not a right. She was denied because she wasn't discriminated against based on her religion, but rather was fired because her specific expression impacted her job. She would have been fired no matter what religion she was a part of which is why it wasn't religious discrimination

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago

Another Christian religious nut. Get fucked.

[–] misspacific@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 7 months ago (2 children)

on this episode of "My Sincerely Held Belief Takes Precedence Over Everything" we once again attempt to claim that any consequences for my anti-social behavior is a direct attack on myself and my religion.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

But my religion says I have to hate people and tell them they're going to Hell.

"All those who have sought to end my career." So entitled.

She refused to play a gay role, but when she was found out she'd signed up for a gay role, she didn't quit, just go all persecuted when she was fired from the gay role that she refused?

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[–] UnaSolaEstrellaLibre@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Being homophobic in THEATER, of all places?!?

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[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They will probably believe they're being discriminated against while being the one who is discriminating against others. Typical flawed world view.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Her comment at the end of the article confirms that she's in deep with the persecution fetish

“but the theatre world needs to be told, loud and clear, that canceling people for their Christian beliefs is illegal and wrong.”

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Odd, I don't remember christ demanding the ability to say hateful things to people. But I bailed on the religion over a decade ago, so who knows what new things they've found that Jesus said now.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

lol this bitch didn't just get fired from a job for saying homophobic shit...SHE TOOK A ROLE PLAYING A GAY CHARACTER!

She didn't read the script. Found out later she played a gay character. Why didn't she just quit?

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Hey she still has the right. Just no job lol.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 21 points 7 months ago

"Defending her right to make anti-LGBTQ+ comments" is a strange way to frame this by a pro-LGBTQ source. No one here is saying she doesn't have a right to say these things, they're saying she doesn't have a right to stay employed at this job after saying these things and refusing to work with her employer to manage public perception

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 17 points 7 months ago

She always had the right to express her ideas... she just didn't have the right to be free from the consequences of doing so. I also enjoy the tension of "I follow everything the Bible says" / "I'm not homophobic"

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

she's not defending her rights, she's challenging the rights of studios to choose who they work with.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Before appealing, she should take into account whether she can afford to pay more legal costs if (when) she loses again.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure that will be the lawyer's first point in the "should we appeal" conversation.

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