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[DISCUSSION] The power vacuum left after the destruction of Romulus (lemmy.world)
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With the dwindled population and organization of the Romulan Star Empire near the end of the 24th century, who will step up as the next big player? The Federation generally expands by diplomacy and comradery. The Klingons have had time since their civil war to get their shit together. The Orion Syndicate typically stays on the outskirts, but the opportunity is there. The Dominion had been a non-player since the treaty, but then who actually expects them to ignore the situation? The Borg as we know them in that time period are gone. (Insert new faction/random Delta Quadrant race) appears to mix things up. I'm not familiar with any Beta Canon or STO lore, so if any of this gets addressed, I'm curious to hear of it.

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[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think the “it's something not discussed with non-Klingons” Klingons from TOS will return and we will learn that it wasn’t just a 4th wall throwaway joke about makeup budget, but actually a species schism that resulted in an exodus of half their race. And now they’re back, and of course they’re pissed.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Vulcan/Romulan rift 2.0 could work as a great parallel.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Q uplifts the Pakleds.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

red alarm.

red alarm.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

The Pakled don't need the Q, they are strong.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it will be the Syndicate. The Federation probably wouldn't move in to take over world's that the Romulans can no longer handle. I'm sure some of those would fall to the Klingons, but I think most would just kind of be on their own in chaos, which would be a great opportunity for the Orions. Plus, Lower Decks is going to be expanding on the Orions next season

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I had not heard about that on LD. Sweet. Maybe we'll get some Orion families joining up forces.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My guess is the Tribbles expand to fill the void. Unbeknownst to most, the Romulans were keeping them at bay. The Klingons had considered them a Mortal Enemy of the Klingon Empire, but was so embarrassed by that, that they decided to give up. The Romulans were all that would stop them.

consider posting this to lemmy.world/d/startrek as well, since that is now up and running

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Suddenly Section 31's back in the picture stirring up trouble.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The Klingons, yearning for the Glory of the past, join forces with the Gorn to ignite a war fiercer than anything the galaxy has seen. Or at least, I think that would be cool.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So how is Morn involved?

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Intriguing. We've only recently gotten a closer look at the Gorn Hegemony, but from the 23rd century. TNG, DS9, and VOY only make light reference to them without any appearance. As another warlike species, that would be fun to see play out. Especially since both sides would naturally plan to destroy the other once their goals were met. Where's Worf's son Alexander at this point?

[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd be kind of looking at a Cardassian-led counter-federation. Maybe the Gorn, maybe some others.

What would be interesting is if it weren't an overtly evil "rah, rah, we gonna beat up the UFP and reclaim our glory!" so much as a "with the Klingons firmly Federation allies, the Dominion crushed, and the Romulans devastated, the Federation is unquestionably on top... and that kind of scares us. We're going to band together because otherwise, the Federation could do whatever it wanted with us."

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A Federation adjacent, carving out territory. Occasionally, their interests clash. Plenty of room to play with story-wise.

[–] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yep. Someone else mentioned something called the "Typhon Pact", which I didn't know about but sounds reasonably close to what I was thinking.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

WHERE ARE MY MEMES?

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

strange, lost/confused Star Trek Online-flavoured squeaking noises

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Please.

[–] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In our timeline the whole "what happens after the destruction of Romulus and end of the RSE (and how that happened, and why)" thing was kinda ages ago 😅 I'm not sure anycritter around here has any interest in STO, though. Kinda seems like I'm the only one who's mentioned it (though I've not peeked nor poked around here much)?

Please don't stuff me into an agonizer booth for consuming unapproved Trek content v.v

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for expanding a bit. STO isn't my style of game, but I figured some of it is considered canon.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

but I figured some of it is considered canon.

It's not, but some of the storyline is good enough that IMO it ought to be.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I’m not sure anycritter around here has any interest in STO, though.

I do.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok, since no one else has mentioned it, I’m going to mention how the Typhon Pact formed in the Relaunch novelverse.

Different cataclysm, but divided remnants of the Romulans joined up with the Tholians, Breens and assorted others to establish a competitor to the Federation, which was seen as failing its perimeter members planets and species.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. Bating allies with distrust and grudges. More importantly, does anyone ever get to see a Breen without a helmet?

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The book that goes deep into the heart of Breen space and culture is called ‘Zero Sum Game’. It’s Bashir and an old colleague sucked into spy stuff. The most awesome Captain Ezri Dax makes a significant appearance too.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apparently, I should start reading the novels. Thanks.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

The Relaunch novelverse is great even if an alternate timeline. The screenwriters are aware of it, and have woven some of its elements into onscreen plot lines.

David Mack who wrote this and many other well received novels was a consultant for the early seasons of both Prodigy and Lower Decks.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Emerald Chain

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Given what @Infynis@midwest.social said about Lower Decks season 5 including a focus on the Orions, we may get to see Tendi involved in the formation of what will eventually become the Emerald Chain.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe i'm missing context, but in which series does this apply?

The Borg as we know them in that time period are gone.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

spoilerPicard season 3

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, see. I dropped that mid Season 1. Did it get any better? I really couldn't deal with that they did to Seven and Icheb

[–] rorsche@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Season 1 and 2 are total garbage. I quite enjoyed season 3 but YMMV. Season 3 is definitely worth a watch to form your own opinion

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can i just jump into Season 3?

[–] rorsche@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah I don't see why not. The story from 1/2 has almost no impact on the plot apart from a couple throwaway references