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[–] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 19 points 6 months ago (37 children)

But you can make cheese out of it and cheese is life.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

Cheese is death

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[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You know you've succeeded with a truly unpopular opinion when you get more downvotes on Unpopular Opinion while no one is complaining that it is a popular opinion.

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Diets are pretty intrinsic to how people live. This is the equivalent of an edgey atheist teenager shitting on Christianity as an unpopular opinion.

[–] amzd@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Down playing your choice to kill as a diet is pretty dystopian

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Down playing the destruction of ecosystems as a diet is pretty dystopian.

You eat food from farmed land too smarty.

[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is an interesting picture you are painting and true, it is probably how most people would see it.

However, your comparison with religion is a little bit off. Engaging in religion is (and should be) a personal choice that is just including you - i.e. it should not force or be forced by others.

But by choosing to consume animal products, you don't just choose something for yourself - you are forcing someone else into pain and ultimately death.

That is the reason why "vegans are so annoying". We don't give a crap about what YOU do - but we want to stand in for the victims that can't make themselves be heard. I hope this makes it easier to understand our motives and why we feel the moral obligation to act on them.

Have a good one!

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I could lay out an argument that supporting religion means you support slavery and crusades.

I'm not going to engage your false utopia. Human brains literally developed from agriculture and cattle farming. Reality is meat consumption is a need for the majority of the planet and beyond an individual consumers' responsibility to solve.

You choose to live on each day despite knowing you will consume and pollute inherently, yet seek to criticize the choices of others?

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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Are you suggesting we start keeping human women on farms to milk them? Do you really want to go to the store and buy a bottle of breast milk to pour over your cereal?

I have nipples. Will you milk me?

[–] amzd@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

Ethics tip: If something feels pretty fucked up when doing it to a human it’s probably safe to assume you shouldn’t do that to a non-human animal

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

Yo what that was your first thought instead of rice milk, oat milk, coconut milk, almond milk or just not eating cereal. You are a big boy, you'll be alright without baby milk.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Can’t I just go to the neighbors?

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Soy milk is better alternative. If you don't like the taste, try coconut milk, oat milk, almond milk, cashew milk, etc.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If I use milk in anything it's usually oat milk, but I still like things like cheese and ice cream sometimes

[–] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

There are vegan versions of those too, they're just less common.

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[–] Chuymatt@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ice cream alternatives are actually really good now.

Fake cheese is still foul.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Sometimes I get the coconut milk ice cream. It tastes good but it's definitely not the same, so I go back and forth

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[–] stiephel@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A truly unpopular opinion, congratulations

[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

And at some point in the future, it will be truly popular! 😁

[–] Obonga@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

Cows, like we have bred, should not exist in the first place. Its a cruelty to have such big udders and while cows can live up to 15 years most milk cows will live to the age of 5-6 because they are used like bio-machines, getting bred and sucked dry all through their short, miserable lives. "But dairy cows can be happy". Sure man, just like the people in the mines and sweatshops...

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The lactose intolerant agree with you

[–] stiephel@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago

It's too late!

*sound of black hole sucking you up*

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[–] max@feddit.nl 2 points 6 months ago

Lol @ all the downvotes raining in this thread. If it weren’t normalised the way it is right now, and some wacko would introduce it today, people would be disgusted and outraged. Just like with dog meat in China and South Korea, that one dish with a grown chicken embryo called (from the top of my head) Balut, and fermented herring as they eat in the nordics.
People just don’t like to have facts shoved in their faces that make them think. Think about how something they’ve grown up to see as normal, might not be normal after all. The logical emotion from that is outrage, dragging your heels, etc.

[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Factory farming sucks and should be abolished.

That being said, in ancient times they gave us milk and we gave them grain during winter. Contracts can always be revisited, but don't act like this was entirely one sided.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

That’s pretty elegant.

I’m stealing it

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess you haven't seen a cow in your life.

Cows need to be milked to stay healthy, because they will still produce milk after her calf is weaned.

[–] amzd@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

They don’t need to be impregnated in a rape rack though

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