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[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder what scandal is currently happening that causes them to talk about this? Every time new, loud "UFO" news comes out, there's always some awful thing going on that it is trying to distract people from.

[–] paganini@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But hey, if we could convert all the antivax, anti global warming, anti abortion, Qanon, and flat earth nuts into UFO nuts I'd be all for it.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

A lot of them go the other way really, they start out as UFO nuts, then end up falling deeper and deeper into conspiracy theory rabbit holes.

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I don't know either. Maybe the ongoing climate disaster with burning forests and dying coral, or maybe the worsening economic crisis.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

bros be spending billions to catch weather balloons.

[–] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The F-22 raptor was developed to be the most advanced stealth fighter known to man. Its only combat mission it will ever fly was against a balloon, and it missed the first shot.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

You don't understand it didn't miss, it just hit an invisible UFO.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

yeah the whole balloon thing kinda blows any credibility here

[–] Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The water around this topic has been muddied to the point where nothing other than a personal confrontation will make me accept it.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

My friend Zzzlacksarr is heading to your place right now for a quick chat.

[–] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Seems to me that the US has some kind of new tech that they just don't want to share so they're going hard with this new disclosure movement. Probably something like an unmanned version of the AEREON 26 hybrid airship. Essentially half-blimp half-jet, its close to neutrally buoyant so it could "tumble" through the air like what we've seen in the tic-tac video released by the Navy.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

What would be the purpose of this? Reconnaissance?

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Could all be smoke blowing bullshit to try and scare the Chinese. Make them think America has these super-advanced alien-derived beyond beyond next generation super wunder-craft that they'll have no choice but to unleash in a direct conflict. The goal being to give more weight to US credibility to try and dissuade them from challenging the US in Taiwan or elsewhere when they act.

However it really doesn't matter, unless these craft have energy barrier force fields around them or can move absolutely ridiculously, impossibly fast (doubt, they'd have applied it to interceptor tech or a next-gen missile program by now but they still lag behind Russia/China) they can still be hit and taken out by hyper-sonic missiles even if they could give them a theoretical advantage in dog-fighting with jets.

Come to think of it that seems as good a reason as any as the US is increasingly lacking credibility because of Ukraine, inventing this myth that we have these super secret alien-derived wunder-craft which we've been hiding and avoiding using would do wonders for the psyche of the western militarist which is going to get quite a rattling soon when Ukraine loses. They can just claim we didn't dare unleash them there because we didn't want Russia to have a chance to study them and are holding them in reserve for any kind of direct conflict.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I'm willing to bet that's at least one major reason for the sudden alien psyop. I think they want to sew some doubt even if just a tiny little bit too make sure China and friends can't be 100% certain of any of their war plans.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think "We totes captured an alien spaceship and have super duper advanced fighters now, so don't even try to resist us" is really going to work on China. Far more likely that this is aimed at the general US populace, to convince them of one thing or another, possibly even an attempt at trying to look "transparent" by "revealing the truth about UFOs."

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t hurt to try though from the US point of view.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Their "wunderwaffen" in Ukraine turned out to be anything but, so they are probably desperate to reclaim their prestige.

[–] Bucket_of_Truth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Its just a continued effort to obfuscate modern tech. They discontinued the program then got a rich rube (Tom DeLonge) to foot the bill.

[–] ZodiacSF1969@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does the US really lag behind Russia and China? I'm not up to date on military stuff.

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In hypersonic capabilities? Absolutely. Greedy and ineffective defense contractors that have a perverse incentive to not deliver quickly so as to continue getting money for research programs are part of it. They paper over it with rosy rigged tests and language at times in like interceptor tests.

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's becoming clearer and clearer that the US military and defense is not capable of what it once was even a decade ago. Privatization efforts have caught up and rotted it from the inside and it's likely gonna be revealed soon that they don't even have the capacity to sufficiently staff their 800 military bases. People simply aren't signing up to be meat pawns for them anymore. Their Middle East adventures have lost them all credibility with Gen Z, and even if most of the US populace drinks the koolaid when it comes to Russia-Ukraine they're still not gonna voluntarily enlist to die for the cause themselves. That's another major reason why the US now gets the people of other countries to fight their battles for them.

The US would need a draft of their own populace and given the legacy of Vietnam and every one of their military failures since, a draft for the purposes of battling China would incite enormous unrest. I don't think the people here would stand for it. And to crack down on such dissent they would have to majorly crack down on the populace using the military they're trying to get people to join... an incredibly asinine thing to do while attempting to start a world war with a shrinking economy, lagging technology, and record unpopularity of their political system.

Like, I wouldn't put it completely past the most violent politicians and string pullers of the US to do something that enormously stupid. But that's what it would be: enormously stupid. It might be the one thing that would actually launch a united revolution against them.

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they have where is the technology, they could not afford to implement the technology for military purposes, it would be the first thing they would do, without thinking about the consequences.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Not to defend those clowns, but I'd imagine proper alien technology would be so alien (lol) that it would be impossible to implement, or even reverse engineer

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Even the aliens only care about the International Community®. Hope this investigation leads to more leaks from the Pentagon, specially for things that actually matter.

[–] anicius@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You too can know the secrets in the sky if you just head on over to the newsnation website and watch my interview. It's extremely difficult to take Grusch seriously.

[–] Ret2libsanity@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] anicius@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ohh, I was just making fun of how during the hearing Grusch repeatedly shilled his interview.

[–] Ret2libsanity@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

Oh lol. Yeah that’s fair.

That annoyed me too. Especially since the interview wasn’t under oath.

But they did submit his interview into the record. So Atleast that was done.

I was more annoyed how he wouldn’t answer questions that weren’t in a SCiF but these were questions he answered in his interview

[–] Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago
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