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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unironically yes for taking such obvious bait

[–] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago

Bait used to be believable

[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

A long long LOOOONG time ago I tried to screenshot a video in windows media player and the screenshot still changed when I moved or played the video. I often wonder if that was a fever dream or just some weird shit that was happening with really early tech. I remember being so mad because I just wanted a screenshot of a scene in the video and it wouldn't work lol

[–] elvith@feddit.de 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Not a fever dream, I remember this, too. You basically got a "transparent" image through which you could see the rendered live (or game, as it happened with those, too). As soon as you closed the video player/game, or saved and reloaded the image, the effect was gone and you were stuck with a... I think it was just a black image?

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think it just remapped the memory of the video process, but I could be way off...

[–] elvith@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Back then, there was less hardware acceleration for the regular desktop stuff. Probably it just copied the data from the software rendering, and there it just defined that this part of the screen was hardware accelerated and this region pointed to vram instead of regular RAM.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yup. Wormholes in your memory.

I think this essentially predated GPUs?

[–] elvith@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

I remember this from Win 95 and Win 98, maybe even XP? You usually had a GPU, but they were more simple than today's GPUs. Oftentimes they were on-board (in contrast to today's iGPUs that are part of the processor, not part of the mainboard).

In the very early times you had 3D cards like the 3Dfx Vodoo cards. Those could only render 3D. Your desktop and other programs were still rendered by your normal GPU or on-board graphics card. They did only render 3D. You had to put a small cable from the output of your regular GPU to your 3D card's input and then plug you monitor into the 3D card. While you didn't do 3D, the 3Dfx Vodoo would just output everything it received from your regular GPU. When you played a game, it would output whatever it rendered instead.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Dam, this is actually awesome, I actually wanted to do something similar to this but couldn't figure things out.

I need to try again, might be able to make a virtual desktop screen and make xrandr pipe that output to that window.

Basically the thing I wanted to make is kind of like the picture in picture mode we have in browsers but for anything. Like just have those app open in a different virtual window and only remap the portion you wanna see into a always on top window.

[–] Misconduct@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Omg it wasn't a fever dream! 🥹

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 23 points 9 months ago

IIRC media players used to do something like a green screen where they draw a rectangle of a certain color and then a separate process would decode the video and display it over the colored rectangle. So taking a screenshot of the media player would capture the colored rectangle and it'd also be targeted by the video renderer.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is real. I first was mad too, but than I copied it into paint, made some kind of clipart TV around it, and made it my desktop background. After that I could open VLC, move the window into the right spot and minimize it. This was soo cool.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You've activated my hyperanalytical brain. I have to know exactly how that worked

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know the exact technicalities but you can think of it as there is a color that's "VLC video", like a green screen. VLC itself consists of a window filled with this color and projects the video to the coordinates. Once you minimize the window, the video disappears, not because it isn't projected anymore, but because there is no "projection surface", except if the color happens to appear somewhere, be it paint or the background. I hope that makes it clear as far as I myself understand it.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fascinating. Follow up question, did your computer have a second graphics card for 3D graphics/decoding video?

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

This is almost 2 decades ago, so I doubt it

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How cool would it be if printers had a feature where they printed .gif pre-formatted as a flip-book?

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Haha woah calm down Harry Potter.

[–] THEMASTERMIND@feddit.ch 3 points 9 months ago

These muggles

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You need to use OLED paper.

[–] Aasikki@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 months ago

It's crazy to think that oled indeed is paper thin, literally. I'm still wowed every time I disassemble an old screen from a device. It's like, "that's it? that thin piece of what looks like aluminium foil is the display? It's crazy thin even together with the front glass. And I still have that reaction even though I know how the technology works.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago

I once considered scanning a mirror so that I could make my background a mirror.

I guess a perfect scanner could do that. But the piece of shit real world scanner my dad bought wouldn't have managed it.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

For the youngins who weren't around back then Yahoo answers was just trolls trolling trolls.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was closed down in the beginning of the Biden administration.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does Biden hate America so much we aren't even allowed to ASK QUESTIONS?!

-Fox News.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I remember there was a Russian bot that was still running until the end. Biden was already in the Whitehouse and the bot was still arguing that Trump should fire Fauci. Should have screen captured it because I am starting to wonder if people are in denial about those bots.

[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Lol I wont deny I had an account too.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

I miss yahoo answers. I was using it so much during the end.

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You need a 4D printer for that.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It prints strange doughnuts

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Try looking backwards at it, not forwards.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Found an easy way to identify muggles.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 10 points 9 months ago
[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I feel it would be funny if it was a normal billard 8-ball.

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have started feeling a bit empathetic with age towards these people, even if this was probably a troll but to the people who don't know how tech works it might as well be magic. Ignorance is bliss can also be applied here I guess.

[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Given that the tech they need to understand here is paper, empathy is hard and it's just frustrating. Computers, complicated. Paper, extremely uncomplicated. This is just refusal to use the noodle.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago

You ever tried making these advanced origami? Paper can be complicated.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

Yahoo answers:

I'm worried about my small penis will it keep growing?

I'm 13 so I'm hoping it will keep getting bigger but it's only 9 inches long. Is there anything I can do to make it bigger?

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 5 points 9 months ago

Obviously you're not a golfer.

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I love that their username was "hello"

[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I think my earliest handle was "here2help"; I must have been like 13-14. Although, I was wicked tech savvy for a kid in the late 90's.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

!! That's pretty Hi.

Larious, that is. But it would be perty darn cool if Gifs could actually move once they were printed out. Pornhub would be overtrafficked 24/7.

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 9 months ago