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[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The whole argument that video games must be complete escapism has been twisting my brain in knots.

Like there's a lot there to be analyzed. The need for "escapism" over just playing a game because its fun is a scary turn.

These dorks are annoying, yes, but holy shit are they okay? Like there's so many threads I want to tug on but I'm afraid to. Like why do they need to escape? Why can escapism only be right wing? Where does this start, when they're kids or when they're older and disaffected? where in the video game culture is this idea presented and supported?

Even the basis that "games are escapism", means one is playing games in a way someone does drugs. A comfort, an escape, the inability to address issues in ones own life.

I'm not remotely qualified to analyze any of this but it just feels really dark and foreboding overall.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

They probably consider Call of fucking Duty to be neutral and not ideology

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Keep politics out of games" and the whole "escapism" line are nonsensical the more you think about it.

Video games are not an "escape from reality" into something completely new and different, they will always be reinterpretations of our current reality because that's all we know and all we can create. Reinterpretations that display how we believe the world works, how we feel about the world and what we would like it to be. Any piece of art involving any kind of society will therefore always be political, because you can't write a society without displaying how you believe societies work and/or how they should work.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

:alfred-sohn-rethel-shining:

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm really developing a violent reaction to the "video games are escapism" line.

Like, that's all the art form is to you? A means to escape your life and turn off those dumbass noises in your head for a while?

Also, knifecat escape from what, exactly? bridget-pride-stay-mad

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't trans people have the right to escape from transphobia also? Flip it on their heads.

[–] Orannis62@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

They would say that trans people not coming up at all would be an escape from transphobia lol

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The main goal of the Nazi film policy was to promote escapism, which was designed to distract the population and to keep everybody in good spirits; Goebbels indeed blamed defeat in World War I on the failure to sustain the morale of the people.

Source

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

Goebbels indeed blamed defeat in World War I on the failure to sustain the morale of the people.

What a dumbass. Not only did he want to reduce art to a distraction, but his analysis of the war is also completely wrong. What no material analysis does to a mf

Common Nazi L

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

People who hide behind the word "escapism" are absolutely the sort of people who will go off on a rant about how places like China or Russia or [insert target country here] are full of unthinking drones that wouldn't dream of contradicting the status quo. :projection:

[–] teeforlove@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

damn that's crazy, anyways, any of my trans and NB comrades want to hop into tf2 and legally convert everyone into a femboy?

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I want to illegally convert everyone into a femboy.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

tails-pout too late! doomer but I already went through twink death 10 years ago. yea

bottom-speak if you could magically turn back time pls.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

Dang, I had the spironolactone ready and everything :/

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

I can't support trans rights because the transes killed 30 million people.

Oh wait that was the nazis.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Customer base has a lot of trans people

Developers recognize that and throw in an easter egg.

"YO WTF how can this be happening? I DEMAND THE ARTISTS PRAISE MY BELOVED HITLER!"

YouDoNotFitInHereComic.png

[–] ergifruit@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

this is such a cute Easter egg! i don't play TF2 but i know most players are queer or allies, from what i've seen and also people really like the twink that looks kinda like Jerma. and the meme of the spy with all the cigarettes in his mouth. and something about hats... or is that RuneScape? it's wonderful to imagine all the people seeing this for the first time, and how happy it would make them. 😊

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

all opinions are equally valid. my desire to beat up queers is just as benign as your preference for chocolate ice cream.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

seeing the nazis and thinking "ah yes the problem is ideas and not the fact these ideas suck"

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What’s with right wingers and this constant, child-like insistence that everything they do is escapism and coping. It sounds like they want a safe space

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

gigachad: "Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from speech."

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

freeze-gamer

All of them get the gulag.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

as always, the gulag is for those who can be saved. they'll get the pit and they'll like it

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh would you look at that, this gulag is actually just a pit! This is the problem with bureaucracy...

Shove AAAAAA~AAAAAYOUGUYSARETHEREALNAZIIIIIIS!!!~

You can't just not follow through on the order without a mountain of paperwork, and filling a notice that this is a pit and not a gulag will take the better part of a year to go through the correct channels!

~thud~

I hear you comrade, it feels like the gamer rehabilitation agency doesn't care sometimes.

[–] trot@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

quit job as gulag supervisor to become pit supervisor

first day on the job, go down to the pit

it's a gulag

[–] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Literally half of all players on TF2 are LGBT. I've been playing TF2 about 20 hours in the last 2 weeks and I have YET to see a non-trans medic.

They all have Mediguns labeled "Estrogen Dispenser" or other such trans references.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hmm when I played tf2 I mained medic

I just like helping people

[–] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

I did too but only because the Crusader's Crossbow can destroy cocky snipers in long range and most classes at medium.

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

i know its preaching to the choir here but the trans = nazis shit is especially insane considering the institute that developed a proto-gender dysphoria diagnosis and treatment was destroyed by the fucking nazis!!! agony

[–] Ananasova@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago